YTSEJAM Digest 5418
Today's Topics:
1) Re: Metropolis: Compendium
by Janne Jokitalo <janne_jokitalo@yahoo.com>
2) Re: dt faq joke
by Janne Jokitalo <janne_jokitalo@yahoo.com>
3) Re: overplaying
by Janne Jokitalo <janne_jokitalo@yahoo.com>
4) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5417
by "HJ Rivera" <hrivera@crp.org>
5) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5417
by "Carlos A. Alfaro" <calfaro@yunque.net>
6) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5417
by Dustro2@aol.com
7) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5417
by JamesAhab@aol.com
8) I HAVE IT! HoB show available
by Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu>
9) The Sixth Sense
by "Steven Zebrowski" <szebro1@gl.umbc.edu>
10) Re: The Sixth Sense
by JamesAhab@aol.com
11) What a bunch of c*nts!
by "Gallop, Neil" <Neil.Gallop@softwareag.com>
12) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5417
by mikel <mikel@alphalink.com.au>
13) *** FAQ Update (for real) / April Fools ***
by Pat Griffin <s1029516@admiral.umsl.edu>
14) RS and music journalism
by "Mats Rydstrom" <mats.rydstrom@slitz.se>
15) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5417
by Janne Jokitalo <janne_jokitalo@yahoo.com>
16) CDs for sale
by Ian Jeffcock <ianjeffcock@pacific.net.sg>
17) Ytse Pics
by Ultraking@aol.com
18) Mike Bahr
by Ultraking@aol.com
19) Re: Aghora
by John Parks <jpyyz@yahoo.com>
20) a little help from my friends!
by "phairgirl" <phairgirl@anada.net>
21) Re: a little help from my friends!
by Emre Topuzoglu <Emret@ispro.net.tr>
22) Partha.... email me please
by "Joe DeAngelo" <jdeangelo@home.com>
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Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 00:40:51 +0300
From: Janne Jokitalo <janne_jokitalo@yahoo.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Metropolis: Compendium
Message-ID: <38E7BE63.2836EDEC@yahoo.com>
"Awake ." wrote:
>
> I'd just like to say - on behalf of everyone who linked
> to the FAQ via UACM on saturday - that this was the
> funniest thing I've seen in a long time! :)
>
> Even if it did take me reading it through twice before I
> realised what fucking date it was!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> ~Simon
>
I bet the number of ytsejam subscribers suddenly dropped to half cause everyone
with a bad heart collapsed when remembering the date... I almost did ;-P
- Winger
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Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 00:45:46 +0300
From: Janne Jokitalo <janne_jokitalo@yahoo.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: dt faq joke
Message-ID: <38E7BF8A.CCE205A4@yahoo.com>
"Carlos A. Alfaro" wrote:
>
> can anyone post the URL?
>
> Carlos Alfaro Internet Solutions Inc.
> mailto:calfaro@yunque.net mailto:prog@musician.org
WARNING !!!
Watch it, be sure you have ye nitros near you...;)
- Winger
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Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 00:58:17 +0300
From: Janne Jokitalo <janne_jokitalo@yahoo.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: overplaying
Message-ID: <38E7C279.4E023BCC@yahoo.com>
Brad Plumb wrote:
>
> I remember that, but I remember seeing it about Rick Wright. "No offense to
> Rick, but, I don't know how he gets his hands to move that slow". Sometimes
> I wish he would do some slow moody stuff.
>
> Palpatine
You might be right, it's a long time I read that... It was the point that was
funny thou', since I haven't heard the guy (whoever it was about) anyway ;-P
- Winger
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Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 18:50:34 -0400
From: "HJ Rivera" <hrivera@crp.org>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5417
Message-ID: <010501bf9cf5$daec40e0$b084c5cf@crp.org>
> Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2000 10:21:54 PDT
> From: "Fran Brennan" <okelnard@hotmail.com>
> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
> Subject: re: overplaying + prog rap
> Message-ID: <20000402172154.1955.qmail@hotmail.com>
>
> The intro to OLT is supposed to be winding down from TDOE, and every
instrument goes
> at it simple, restrained, perfect, but then Jordan has to go on and wank,
as if
> he just *had* to get this quick "run" in there somewhere.
<lurk mode off>
Just like in TSCO where Petrucci comes out of a beautiful, passionate solo
and then speeds up to shred as if he this was an LTE album. I just don't see
how people can complain about Jordan yet Petrucci's shred-fest is "ok."
Listen to the ending of THE when they play it live. That's a serious case of
overplaying if you ask me.
</lurk mode off>
joe
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Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 19:20:28 -0500
From: "Carlos A. Alfaro" <calfaro@yunque.net>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5417
Message-ID: <38E6924C.F5E5DD44@yunque.net>
> Just like in TSCO where Petrucci comes out of a beautiful, passionate solo
> and then speeds up to shred as if he this was an LTE album. I just don't see
> how people can complain about Jordan yet Petrucci's shred-fest is "ok."
> Listen to the ending of THE when they play it live. That's a serious case of
> overplaying if you ask me.
>
> </lurk mode off>
>
> joe
I havent had the oportunity to hear THE live, but in the spirit carries on, JP's
solo w/ the fast runs fits well there, because the songs is by no means winding
down!, its the building up point leading up to the climax , the last chorus,
when james sings it higher and the female singers' gospel "vocalizing" is heard
louder.
It wouldve been wankery if he were to have shredded his way out of the end of
the song, where the piano is doing its thing, with the female singer vocalizing
alone, THAT wouldve been out of place...
Come into this night, Your plight alone
Carry your weight, You are flawed as all of us
Come into this night, You only home
It)B´s never too late, To repent, suffer the loss
Opeth : Benighted
Carlos Alfaro Internet Solutions Inc.
mailto:calfaro@yunque.net mailto:prog@musician.org
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Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 19:23:40 EDT
From: Dustro2@aol.com
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5417
Message-ID: <a6.275b08c.2619307c@aol.com>
For the most part, I agree with you. Jordan happens to be my least favorite
DT key guy so far
that is too bad...he is by far better than DS and to put him over jordan in
all categories is most unfortunate to you...u just dont see were JR is coming
from....now someone else said that they wish that JR could play some slow
moody type things well then check out his solo stuff...he has to great moody
albums...and he has only played On 1 Dt album remember that....im sure down
the road we will see some Moody stuff Relax!
dustro
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Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 19:29:52 EDT
From: JamesAhab@aol.com
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5417
Message-ID: <b1.2c93746.261931f0@aol.com>
>< Just like in TSCO where Petrucci comes out of a beautiful, passionate
solo and then speeds up to shred as if he this was an LTE album. I just don't
see how people can complain about Jordan yet Petrucci's shred-fest is "ok."
Listen to the ending of THE when they play it live. That's a serious case of
overplaying if you ask me. ><
The solo in TSCO fit very well, but the solo at the beginning of THE live was
completely tasteless, as was most of Jordan's solo, IMO. In fact, most of
their individual solos I find to be completely pointless.
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Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 22:55:38 -0400 (EDT)
From: Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: I HAVE IT! HoB show available
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.10.10004022251380.94789-100000@oz.plymouth.edu>
I know that Bogie is going to be uploading this thing to LitS, but for
anybody who doesn't have the time to download this show, I have it all
ready for burning. It's GREAT quality, and for any of you who "couldn't
afford" to do the Pay-Per-View on it for the broadband, shame on you.
(Those of you who don't have high-speed Internet access are waived from
this dressing-down. THIS time.) It was an incredible show, and I did
manage to get an audio recording of it. It's in its raw stages right now
(I'm going to do a little cleaning up here and there, see if I can't make
it sound a little better in places), but if anybody is willing to make a
trade, I'm all ears.
Just be aware that I have NO blank CDs and as such I won't be able to burn
any until I can buy some, but we can still work something out if you're
interested.
I'm not sure who else did record this besides me and Bogie (just the audio
portion, that is), but if you did, contact me and maybe we can do a sort
of tree-type thing with it. This is DEFINITELY a must-have for any boot
collector, because of its extraordinarily high quality (I don't
necessarily mean MY recording, I just mean the show itself).
-------------------------------------------------
Andrew Coutermarsh
a_couter@mail.plymouth.edu
http://cout.dhs.org/
Cloak on IRC
ICQ: 2513441
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"I'm not a vegetarian because I like animals.
I'm a vegetarian because I hate plants."
-- A. Whitney Brown
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Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 23:36:02 -0400
From: "Steven Zebrowski" <szebro1@gl.umbc.edu>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: The Sixth Sense
Message-ID: <000701bf9d1d$bf08ca60$0200010a@steve>
I'd like to thank everyone for COMPLETELY ruining this movie for
me. How about some spoiler warnings next time. Thanks.
STeve Z
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Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 00:35:35 EDT
From: JamesAhab@aol.com
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: The Sixth Sense
Message-ID: <32.32558f3.26197997@aol.com>
>< I'd like to thank everyone for COMPLETELY ruining this movie for me.
How about some spoiler warnings next time. Thanks. ><
The subject specifically said "The Sixth Sense -SPOILERS- (if you haven't
seen it, don't read)" so if you read it, it's your fault.
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Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 08:34:54 +0200
From: "Gallop, Neil" <Neil.Gallop@softwareag.com>
To: "'The Ytsejam Mailing list'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: What a bunch of c*nts!
Message-ID: <C23163F98473D311874C0008C7E62107022E1822@daemsg02.software-ag.de>
Hi all
I had the opportunity of seeing Dream Theater in
Offenbach, Germany on Saturday, and I would like to
thank each member of the band personally for ruining
any other concert that I may be going to for the rest
of this year. Nothing, simply nothing will even
vaguely compare to the performance that the boys put on over the weekend.
Stunning? Stunned more like it. The
normal moronic head banging movement was universally
replaced by people shaking their heads in disbelief.
Everybody knows that it's impossible to play music
like "Scenes From A Memory" live, yet their were
5 people up on the stage doing just that, and in
perfection. Bastards! Couldn't they have made just
one little mistake? I'll bet a lot of musicians in
the audience went home after the concert and burned
their instruments. I've been going to concerts now
for some 28 years, and this has to be one of the best
performances, if not the best performance, that I've
seen and heard by anybody. It was my 5th time for
Dream Theater, and I've never experienced them this
good before. Sometimes in some of the intrumental
passages I almost had to pinch myself to remind myself
that this wasn't the CD, but rather that it was being
played live. To all you people who have tickets for the
remaining shows - I envy you. And hire Jordan if you're
holding a wedding or a party soon.
stay safe and happy listening
Neil Gallop (neil.gallop@softwareag.com)
Currently playing: SHEAVY - Celestial Hi-Fi
PS It was nice to see Spock's Beard go down so well:
a great (if too short) set from a band that always comes
up with the goods.
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Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 16:39:28 +1000
From: mikel <mikel@alphalink.com.au>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5417
Message-ID: <38E83CA0.A9DD9E17@alphalink.com.au>
> I remember that, but I remember seeing it about Rick Wright. "No offense to
> Rick, but, I don't know how he gets his hands to move that slow". Sometimes
> I wish he would do some slow moody stuff.
I don't particularly mind if he plays fast all the time (which he does). Its just one of
those things that he does, and that he does better than pretty much anyone else.
He does do slow moody stuff (check out Secret of the Muse). Its just slow and
moody with squillions of notes (which is a neat trick). I'd prefer to hear a musician do
stuff they can do well and leave the other stuff for other musicians.
Thats not to say that versatility isn't good, but it doesn't really matter unless you have
to work with the guy.... if you know what i mean.
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Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 02:15:11 -0500 (CDT)
From: Pat Griffin <s1029516@admiral.umsl.edu>
To: ThE NuGgeTjAm <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: *** FAQ Update (for real) / April Fools ***
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10004030156020.17677-100000@admiral.umsl.edu>
I hope you all enjoyed the April Fool's Day FAQ joke. My sincere
apologies to any and all who got overly excited as a result. :)
If you missed it, you can still check it out from section 8.5 of the FAQ.
Speaking of the FAQ, I've put a legitimate update online. It has mostly
updates and corrections. Again, I am sorry for the lack of SFaM material,
I will add stuff in as soon as I get ahold of Portnoy.
Also, it seems there is no longer a link to the Official DT FAQ from the
Official DT website (www.dreamtheater.com). Until Mark corrects this
error, you will have to visit the FAQ directly at:
While you are there, be sure to bookmark the FAQ directly so you always
have the most recent version. You can also check out my DT section for
some of my other DT resources, as well as the 1996 Ytsejam Mailing List
t-shirts at a reduced price.
Later!
h t t p : / / w w w . r e a l i t y s q u a r e d . c o m /
| Pat Griffin gabbo@dreamt.org Reality Squared Design |
h t t p : / / w w w . r e a l i t y s q u a r e d . c o m /
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Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 15:12:10 +0200
From: "Mats Rydstrom" <mats.rydstrom@slitz.se>
To: "Ytsejam Mailing List" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: RS and music journalism
Message-ID: <LPBBJGAMJBDDIHCPCHPPCEIDCCAA.mats.rydstrom@slitz.se>
I think some of you need to cut Rolling Stone some slack.
If you cared to look inside the N'Sync cover issue, you'd had found
stories on Phish and Steely Dan, amongst other well written pieces of
information.
You can't exactly blame them for not putting DT on the cover, RS covers
the important major events in pop culture and they do it better than
most. You COULD argue that they should mention DT in a "on tour" news
section, or review the album, or review a gig, but that's about it. Be
reasonable, their popularity and/or "star quality" doesn't measure up to
BSB or Eminem or whoever is considered "hot" by the masses.
For good quality pop/lifestyle journalism I'll gladly read RS, or even
better - Q and MOJO - for as long as I care about music. Q reviewed
OiaLT, Mojo usually reviews Spock's Beard, and has recently featured
long articles on King Crimson, Steely Dan and Pink Floyd. If you don't
care for RS, do check out MOJO. It's a retro-fan's wet dream!
/Mats
NP: Motorhead - Everything Louder Than Everyone Else
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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SLITZ - SCANDINAVIA'S LEADING MEN'S MAGAZINE
mats.rydstrom@slitz.se - www.slitz.se
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 17:30:20 +0300
From: Janne Jokitalo <janne_jokitalo@yahoo.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5417
Message-ID: <38E8AAFC.452C018D@yahoo.com>
"Carlos A. Alfaro" wrote:
>
> > Just like in TSCO where Petrucci comes out of a beautiful, passionate solo
> > and then speeds up to shred as if he this was an LTE album. I just don't see
> > how people can complain about Jordan yet Petrucci's shred-fest is "ok."
> > Listen to the ending of THE when they play it live. That's a serious case of
> > overplaying if you ask me.
> I havent had the oportunity to hear THE live, but in the spirit carries on, JP's
> solo w/ the fast runs fits well there, because the songs is by no means winding
> down!, its the building up point leading up to the climax , the last chorus,
> when james sings it higher and the female singers' gospel "vocalizing" is heard
> louder.
I agree on the album thing, it's nice there, fits okay, no prob... But live...
man, that sucks !! I used to listen to a lot of guitars, and the more the
shredding, the happier I was ;-P But, these days it's more about the song, the
writing, the band playing together... Not about how good individual player can
move his fingers... Of course I understand that there are people who have come
to see that kinda thing, but sometimes they just go so over. IMHO at least ;)
- Winger
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Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 22:37:39 +0800
From: Ian Jeffcock <ianjeffcock@pacific.net.sg>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: CDs for sale
Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.20000403223739.007cf530@pacific.net.sg>
I have the following CDs for sale.
Prices are in US$ and include postage and packaging.
$8 Dream Theater Awake (European pressing)
$15 Dream Theater Dream Out Loud (original KTS bootleg CD)
$26 Dream Theater Lords Of Sound (original KTS bootleg double CD)
$26 Dream Theater Mind Control (original KTS bootleg double CD)
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Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 11:06:22 EDT
From: Ultraking@aol.com
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Ytse Pics
Message-ID: <7b.2a9a45c.261a0d6e@aol.com>
I just found this little Jem of a web site. Cant believe I missed this
before.
http://www.tequila.demon.co.uk/
All Jammers should check this out and send your pics to it. Its nice to be
able to put a face with the names. Not to mention there are some nice
lookin' chicks there too!!!! Anyway, look forward to seeing you there.
Later,
Ultraking
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Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 11:08:51 EDT
From: Ultraking@aol.com
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Mike Bahr
Message-ID: <62.225ec44.261a0e03@aol.com>
I have to ask this one more time (especially now that I've seen a picture of
this person). Who is Mike Bahr? I've seen a large number of posts about
him, none of which painted a very pretty portrait, but I still dont know what
the deal is. I hate being left out of a good mystery! Someone please clue
me in. You can e-mail me privately also if you want to.
Thanks for the info in advance,
Ultraking
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Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 10:35:25 -0700 (PDT)
From: John Parks <jpyyz@yahoo.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Aghora
Message-ID: <20000403173525.17894.qmail@web2005.mail.yahoo.com>
You wrote...
> For everyone who likes DT, you should really check out
> Aghora. I think
> they're from Florida. They're kind of a progressive
> metal, almost kind of a
> DT edge to them. And I bought their new album, and it
> blew me away. If
> anyone reads metal-rules.com, they reviewed their 1998
> demo, and there's an
> mp3 of one of the songs there. They have a female lead
> singer, who is
> absolutely amazing, kinda eerie sounding essence to it.
> But they have some
> good mp3s up on their page (www.aghora.org I think), and
> they're completely
> DIY. Which brings me to another point, if anyone here is
> a fan and has any
> live recordings of them, pass them along.
>
> Louis
>
Hey Louis. I just ordered their cd last night from Lasers
Edge along with the new Platypus. I didn't even know it
had been released until I checked at Lasers Edge. The
soundclips I've heard do rock and I can't wait to get this
cd. It has two of my favorite Musicians: Sean Malone and
Sean Reinert. thanks for the link to their website.
later
john parks
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Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 15:16:56 -0500
From: "phairgirl" <phairgirl@anada.net>
To: "ytsejam" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: a little help from my friends!
Message-ID: <002101bf9da9$8f4bb300$c02d0b18@dubuq1.ia.home.com>
Hey, jammers.
If you've ever experienced oldsk00l ASCII text file madness, you've probably
seen everything from anarchy files to silly stories to song lyrics.
Well, I'm currently working on an upcoming issue of aNAda e'zine that will
be the END-ALL, BE-ALL of lyrics text files. So far, I've got almost 400K of
lyrics, and that's just from two people
My goal is to make this file "Too Big For Floppy."
So my request is, SEND THE LYRICS TO ALL YOUR FAVORITE SONGS TO
lyrics@anada.net -- Don't bother sending Dream Theater lyrics, they're
already there :) And Chroma Key as well.
The deadline is April 15. So either transcribe them yourself, steal them off
a website, or copy them from the liner notes. This file *will* have
copyright notices attached, so don't worry about that.
I'm serious. ANY OF YOUR FAVORITE SONGS. ALL OF THEM. I need a lot more
prog, a lot more European stuff, a lot more obscure things that people don't
hear every day. It will make me a happy girl.
Thanks for any help you can give!
--phairgirl
`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
aNAda e'zine: http://www.anada.net
e-mail: phairgirl@anada.net
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Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 23:33:25 +0300
From: Emre Topuzoglu <Emret@ispro.net.tr>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: a little help from my friends!
Message-ID: <38E90015.54BF5405@ispro.net.tr>
what is my reward for that ? a kiss,a dinner,a date ??!!? .... j/k
;pppp
Im pereparing them to send,
well meet again my friend,someday soon...
BYE
phairgirl wrote:
>
> Hey, jammers.
>
> If you've ever experienced oldsk00l ASCII text file madness, you've probably
> seen everything from anarchy files to silly stories to song lyrics.
>
> Well, I'm currently working on an upcoming issue of aNAda e'zine that will
> be the END-ALL, BE-ALL of lyrics text files. So far, I've got almost 400K of
> lyrics, and that's just from two people
>
> My goal is to make this file "Too Big For Floppy."
>
> So my request is, SEND THE LYRICS TO ALL YOUR FAVORITE SONGS TO
> lyrics@anada.net -- Don't bother sending Dream Theater lyrics, they're
> already there :) And Chroma Key as well.
>
> The deadline is April 15. So either transcribe them yourself, steal them off
> a website, or copy them from the liner notes. This file *will* have
> copyright notices attached, so don't worry about that.
>
> I'm serious. ANY OF YOUR FAVORITE SONGS. ALL OF THEM. I need a lot more
> prog, a lot more European stuff, a lot more obscure things that people don't
> hear every day. It will make me a happy girl.
>
> Thanks for any help you can give!
>
> --phairgirl
>
> `'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
> aNAda e'zine: http://www.anada.net
> e-mail: phairgirl@anada.net
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Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 17:00:05 -0400
From: "Joe DeAngelo" <jdeangelo@home.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Partha.... email me please
Message-ID: <001501bf9daf$96880f00$6e7c0b18@stcl1.mi.home.com>
Sorry to clutter the Jam with private info...... :(
Hey Partha, could you email me? In my absentmindedness, I misplaced your
email address! Sorry!
- Joe D.
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