YTSEJAM Digest 1806
Today's Topics:
1) Re: "To-See-D!" :-) & "Test For Ego"
by Kain <kain@caribe.net>
2) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1803
by babs@sgenva.cc.geneseo.edu (Barb Battaglia)
3) Autoreply Message
by svjohnson@amoco.com
4) Post Ytsecon Party?
by veilmaya@dircon.co.uk (Tim Spear)
5) DT sighting/hearing in Germany
by Jason Breitweg <jbreitwe@hep.physics.wisc.edu>
6) Stopping By The Pub On A Snowy Evening
by Adam Barnhart <adamb@cfmc.com>
7) DT RADIO SPECIAL !
by al587725@campus.cegs.itesm.mx (Marcelo Martinelli)
8) Re: DT RADIO SPECIAL !
by Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org>
9) Wild Stringdom
by "Peter Pignatelli Jr." <74243.363@CompuServe.COM>
10) Re: DT RADIO SPECIAL !
by Kain <kain@caribe.net>
11) Guess who's back!!!!
by "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
12)
by UMJG72D@prodigy.com (MS ANNA M STIGLIC)
13) Re: "To-See-D!" :) & "Test For Ego"
by Younis Youssef Hilal <yhilal@uclink.berkeley.edu>
14) Re: "To-See-D!" :-) & "Test For Ego"
by kurt@fgallery.com
15) DT RADIO SPECIAL !
by kurt@fgallery.com
16) Wild Stringdom
by kurt@fgallery.com
17) Double CDs and some Rush thoughts
by The Digital Man <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu>
18) awards n stuff
by RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org>
19) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1803
by DreamNDay@aol.com
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Date: Fri, 06 Sep 1996 16:06:41 -0400
From: Kain <kain@caribe.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: "To-See-D!" :-) & "Test For Ego"
Message-ID: <32308450.62E3@caribe.net>
Mark Bredius wrote:
>
> > 'Dream Theater are lobbying their record label to allow their upcoming
> > album to be a double album. The recording is set to commence shortly
> > with Metropolis Part 2 set to get a guernsey'
>
> Maybe it's up to *us* to convince EastWest that a 2CD *would* be the
> way to go !!! :-) If the guys themselves want the next album to be
> a double, they must have enough quality stuff to use for it...
Shit, wish I could do something to *make* them record a 2CD. But then
again. Maybe a 2CD for DT isn't a good idea if you think of people
that when they see their 2CD they wouldn't buy a 2CD from a band they've
never heard of. Still, I'd love a 2CD. I'd get it without hesitating the
moment it gets here in PR :)
-- /---------------------------------------------------------------------\ | "Best way to love anything, is keeping in mind you might lose it." | | "Spread before me is my soul, I'm learning to live." Dream Theater | | mailto:kain@caribe.net | | Visit the official page of the world's best band, Dream Theater at | | http://www.rsabbs.com/dt | \---------------------------------------------------------------------/------------------------------
Date: Fri, 06 Sep 1996 16:07:11 -0500 (EST) From: babs@sgenva.cc.geneseo.edu (Barb Battaglia) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1803 Message-ID: <v01510108ae55f96fddb8@[137.238.26.12]>
>>> How the *hell* do you know how long Murphy's ass hair is??? :) > > Well, the last time James and I were sitting around discussing >dingleberries, >it came up. It's a well known fact that if you're gonna talk about >dingleberries, >you're gonna talk about ass hair, and the length thereof. Technically, I >really >don't know how long his ass hair is. When we got to the self-examination >part of our discussion, we just couldn't find a ruler. Don't you just >hate it when you want to >measure your ass hair but have no instruments?
Hello everyone, it's BABS. I'm so glad that I didn't read this during my lunch hour while trying to eat a sanchwich....
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Date: Fri, 6 Sep 96 15:20:51 -0500 From: svjohnson@amoco.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Autoreply Message Message-ID: <199609062021.AA02912@interlock.amoco.com>
I will be on vacation until Monday, September 9. On the 9th =
and 10th I will be on official business. If it is urgent, =
please contact Neil Geary at (312) 856-5373. I will be =
returning calls/messages on Wednesday, September 11.
Steve
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Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 21:24:16 +0100 From: veilmaya@dircon.co.uk (Tim Spear) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Post Ytsecon Party? Message-ID: <v01530500ae5645f2f84c@[194.112.37.82]>
hey there...
well I guess this sounds kind of mad.. Ive decided to come along to Ytsecon.. Thing is , Im coming from London, England! I was thinking of going to the states for a vacation, and when I heard about the con, it seemed like a good idea to include that in my travels... Soooo, my point is, is anyone out on the jam going to be partying/ hanging out in New York after the con, and if so, would they consider letting a limey lond jammer tag along?
until the next jam...
Speak soon, Tim. PLEASE NOTE NEW EMAIL ADDRESS: VEILMAYA@DIRCON.CO.UK New Web Site: http://www.users.dircon.co.uk/~veilmaya/
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Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 16:06:11 -0500 From: Jason Breitweg <jbreitwe@hep.physics.wisc.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: DT sighting/hearing in Germany Message-ID: <199609062107.OAA12755@mindcrime.ax.com>
Hi All,
This happened about 3-4 weeks ago when I was still in Hamburg, Germany. I was watching tv with my girlfriend at about 10pm. Not sure what the show was, but I am sure it was horrible (as most German tv is *grin*). We had the lights off and my girlfriend was almost asleep.
So there was a preview for the Thomas Gottschalk show (kind of a talk/variety show in Germany). And the background music sounded very familier. When it struck me I jumped up in the air in the process scaring the shit out of my girlfriend. She asked what the hell is wrong and I told her that the music on the commercial was "Afterlife" by Dream Theater! Of course she didn't care but I know you guys would *big grin*.
Anyone flying through Detroit to NYC when they go to the Ytsecon III? I will be on NW flight 893 from Detroit to LaGuardia on Friday October 11th. I will be wearing my Ytsejam shirt of course. Watch out for me *grin*.
Jason
Currently Playing: Lethal - Poison Seed
+-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Jason T Breitweg (jbreitwe@lobelia.physics.wisc.edu) | | Ich bin ein Dream Theaterfan | +---------------=> http://lobelia.physics.wisc.edu/jbreitwe <=----------------+
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Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 14:10:52 -0700 From: Adam Barnhart <adamb@cfmc.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Stopping By The Pub On A Snowy Evening Message-ID: <199609062110.OAA04109@main.cfmc.com>
>From: jazzmin@pop1.backbone.ou.edu > >Or Alanis Morrissette! EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW! I thought Sinead O'Connor had an >irritating >voice until I heard this poor waif. > >However, she *did* slag MTv in her acceptance speech, and that's all right >with me. >I hate MTv, but to its credit that's where I saw the video for "Pull Me >Under", the >first time, and subsequently bought the album (TV was on at a friend's >house). I just >remember the days when they would NEVER play commercials, like (thinks HARD) >1984, I >guess, when it first came to Oklahoma City. Now it's all commercials, no >fun, and the >videos are unfortunately forced to conform to the standards of MTv, which >sucks. A >Christian video I liked ("666" by DeGarmo & Key) would get played on the >Christian >video show that TBN had, I forget what that was called, but the artists had >to cut it >to fit MTv's liking. (A shot of a guy on fire, it was fine for the >Christian people >I suppose because it was supposed to be Hell, but not okay for regular >circulation.) > >But what did y'all think of KISS? I missed that part.
KISS? Ugh....
It's interesting that so many folks are so down on Alanis Morrissette, from the perspective of her having ability/intelligence/integrity (yeah, it's seems like I've taken it upon myself to defend her on here and TNMS). I guess we could go around and around on her, musically, and I'm not really in the mood for that. What I wanted to mention is that I've seen/read/heard a number of interviews with her and she's tremendously articulate -- maybe not quite in the way Greg Graffin or Neil Peart would be, but surprisingly bright. And what I've gleaned from those interviews is that she seems VERY involved with her music....that it means quite a bit to her. I suppose it could be an act, but I doubt it. Still, her voice in an acquired taste, to say the least, and the rhythm section on "Jagged Little Pill" certainly wanders dangerously close to the dance/canned sounds of her past, so I won't begrudge anyone their dislike of her. I, however, think she's a unique talent.
Degarmo and Key?! Man, I sure haven't heard about them in a while.....
Adam D. Barnhart adamb@cfmc.com ydnt85a@prodigy.com
Five Gratuitous CD's: ===================== 1. Sublime: Sublime 2. Rush: Rush 3. Pearl Jam: Ten 4. Sara Hickman: Shortstop 5. Metallica: Load
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Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 16:32:04 -0500 From: al587725@campus.cegs.itesm.mx (Marcelo Martinelli) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: DT RADIO SPECIAL ! Message-ID: <9609062132.AA13917@campus.cegs.itesm.mx>
It is going to happen ! I am going to be hosting a 1 hour Dream Theater special on the radio here in Monterrey , Mexico. On Sunday, September 8 at 11 P.M. the DT radio special will be on the air on D-99 (radio station). I hope it turns out well and get more people into the music of our favorite band. I'm open to all suggestions about what songs to put in 1 hour , please e-mail me privately. I had been waiting for about 3 months for the people of the radio station that I work in to let me do this , but I finally got the chance. The first 3 weeks of September is anniversary week so I was able to squeeze 1 hour for the special. I know that almost nobody (if in fact anybody) will be able to hear it but I'm trying to get more popularity for a band that deserves it , if anybody listens to the special please mail me and let me know what you think. I will aknowledge the Ytsejam Mailing List during the special as a tribute to all you guys. See ya!
Marcelo Martinelli Monterrey , Mexico D-99 XHJD 98.9 Sunday Sept. 8'96 DT Radio Special
-It dawned on me one day that I should not be making sandwiches for a living- ---John Petrucci
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Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 17:48:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org> To: Marcelo Martinelli <al587725@campus.cegs.itesm.mx> Subject: Re: DT RADIO SPECIAL ! Message-ID: <Pine.BSD.3.91.960906174711.27068A-100000@astro.ocis.temple.edu>
..songs Syrinx thinks should be on a special:
1: A Fortune In Lies 2: Pull Me Under 3: Take The Time 4: Metropolis 5: Caught In A Web 6: Space-Dye Vest
..i'm assumin you don't have a lot of time, but if you have more:
7-8: The Mirror/Lie 9: A Change Of Seasons 10: Ytsejam
----------------------------------------------- Michael B. Ostrich - musical advisor/consultant email: syrinx@dreamt.org syrinx@wicked.stigmata.org syrinx@astro.ocis.temple.edu
"..when i look back on the past, it's a wonder i'm not yet extinct. all the the mistakes and bad judgements i made nearly pushed me to the brink. it doesn't pay to be too nice, it's the one thing i have learned. still, i make my fossil bed, now i toss and turn." - adrian belew.
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Date: 06 Sep 96 18:00:28 EDT From: "Peter Pignatelli Jr." <74243.363@CompuServe.COM> To: ytse jam <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Wild Stringdom Message-ID: <960906220028_74243.363_BHR66-1@CompuServe.COM>
Hey Rip,
I think Gary Hoey might have done Wild Stringdom for a little while. I could be wrong.
Chris Pignatelli CLOCKWORK
"And then God said let there be chicken without boundry and the earth, the sky, the light, the stars, Adam and Eve, and Eden all turned into chicken, Oh yeah and the serpent too." - The Older Testament
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Date: Fri, 06 Sep 1996 18:09:06 -0400 From: Kain <kain@caribe.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: DT RADIO SPECIAL ! Message-ID: <3230A102.3350@caribe.net>
Hm, About those songs, I guess they should play other songs and not ones like ACOS. 'Cause you have to draw people slowly or they won't accept the change from whatever crap they're listening to DT. "Oh that's too heavy", "Too long". And shit like that. I guess they should play PMU, Another Day or Surrounded, TTT, UAGM, Voices, YtseJam would be nice too. And a heavier song be it The Mirror or Lie just to show people how varied can DT be. Well my 2 cents. Later -- /---------------------------------------------------------------------\ | "Best way to love anything, is keeping in mind you might lose it." | | "Spread before me is my soul, I'm learning to live." Dream Theater | | mailto:kain@caribe.net | | Visit the official page of the world's best band, Dream Theater at | | http://www.rsabbs.com/dt | \---------------------------------------------------------------------/
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Date: Fri, 6 Sep 96 18:20:35 EDT From: "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Guess who's back!!!! Message-ID: <9609062220.AA28691@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
Awww, yes. You're worst nightmare has returned from summer break.
Damon Fibraio has returned. Yes, folks, that blind guy that you either love or hate to death is back to spew his rarely DT contented posts across the Internet. Any fans of mine, (yeah, sure) can get in touch, I am here until august. And anybody who wants to update me on what's going on with the next DT album or the ytsecon III or whatever number can get in touch. The blind guy needs a ride to the con. Any takers? And anyone in the Monmouth Ocean county area of New Jersey can tune into my progressive rock radio show on 88.9 WMCX on Saturdays from 3 to 6, after the football game. Much DT being played. In addition, I have the Rush cD before anybody else. HAHAHAHA. Hate me now? If no, give me time, you will.
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Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 17:43:36, -0500 From: UMJG72D@prodigy.com (MS ANNA M STIGLIC) To: ytsejam@ax.com Message-ID: <199609062143.RAA03572@mime4.prodigy.com>
>Tori Amos "Inside The Storm" - this one's almost ready to ship, pre- orders >are still being taken. A wonderful, beautiful performance. ohmygod!! (*gasp*) okay...calm down...breathe...(ahem) um...pardon my incompetence, but i've never ordered from ya so how would i go about doing that? i definitely don't want to miss this... i don't know how i missed it in the first place...just one of the side effects of adolescence i suppose...no memory whatsoever...you can e-mail me so as to avoid jam-clutter... (umjg72d@prodigy.com) Anna:)
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Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 15:53:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Younis Youssef Hilal <yhilal@uclink.berkeley.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: "To-See-D!" :) & "Test For Ego" Message-ID: <Pine.ULT.3.93.960906152955.16345B-100000@uclink.berkeley.edu>
On Fri, 6 Sep 1996 ytsejam@ax.com wrote:
> From: Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl> > > Here's a quote from the metal column in 'Beat' (a street newspaper > > here in Melbourne, Australia): > > > > 'Dream Theater are lobbying their record label to allow their upcoming > > album to be a double album. The recording is set to commence shortly > > with Metropolis Part 2 set to get a guernsey' Somebody (don't remember who, sorry) talked to Portnoy at his Florida clinic (about a couple of weeks ago, I guess?). From their post, I got the impression that it was really just Mike (and not the whole band) who's pushing the 2-CD deal. I don't know if your source is wrong...I'm just not sure which to believe right now:). According to that post also, when Mike was asked if Met. II was going to be on the next album, that also seemed to be kind of iffy (i.e. Mike couldn't say for sure that it WAS going to be on the next album). > > Maybe it's up to *us* to convince EastWest that a 2CD *would* be the > way to go !!! :-) If the guys themselves want the next album to be > a double, they must have enough quality stuff to use for it... > If they *do*, *I* wanna have it !!! Are you guys with me on this ? :-D We hashed this out on this list a few months back, when word first got out about the amount of material that DT had already written. Hell, as I remember, it was Petrucci himself who first dropped the idea for a double-CD at one of his clinics. Anyway, the upshot was that the list was basically split on whether or not DT should come out with a double-CD. For what it's worth, though, I'm with you.
Younis Hilal
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Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 19:27:32 -0400 From: kurt@fgallery.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: "To-See-D!" :-) & "Test For Ego" Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.16.9.6.-13.27.32.2916992174.338606@bbs.fgallery.com>
Ill do whatever is takes! .. but i also see the point of the ppl that have never heard dt..or are not hardcore fans would not buy a 2 cd..well they can release them separeately (gnr comes to mind ugh!) :)
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Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 19:29:26 -0400 From: kurt@fgallery.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: DT RADIO SPECIAL ! Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.16.9.6.-13.29.26.2916992174.338607@bbs.fgallery.com>
Well you can put metropolis! :) like he hadnt thought about it already! yeah right! :) and TTT
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Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 19:30:10 -0400 From: kurt@fgallery.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Wild Stringdom Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.16.9.6.-13.30.10.2916992174.338609@bbs.fgallery.com>
YT>Hey Rip,
YT>I think Gary Hoey might have done Wild Stringdom for a little while. I could YT>wrong.
YT>Chris Pignatelli YT>CLOCKWORK
YT>"And then God said let there be chicken without boundry and the earth, the s YT>the light, the stars, Adam and Eve, and Eden all turned into chicken, Oh yea YT>and the serpent too." - The Older Testament
Gary Hoey..hes good.. :)
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Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 20:15:13 -0400 (EDT) From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu> To: Ytse Jam <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Double CDs and some Rush thoughts Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9609062054.B11794-0100000@griffin.emba.uvm.edu>
> From: Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl> > Subject: "To-See-D!" :-) & "Test For Ego" > > Just read this in alt.music.dream-theater : > > > Here's a quote from the metal column in 'Beat' (a street newspaper > > here in Melbourne, Australia): > > > > 'Dream Theater are lobbying their record label to allow their upcoming > > album to be a double album. The recording is set to commence shortly > > with Metropolis Part 2 set to get a guernsey' > > Maybe it's up to *us* to convince EastWest that a 2CD *would* be the > way to go !!! :-) If the guys themselves want the next album to be > a double, they must have enough quality stuff to use for it... > If they *do*, *I* wanna have it !!! Are you guys with me on this ? :-D
I'm still not convinced that the band is for this. I know Mike would like it, but I'm not sure that we know what the band thinks as a whole. So, here's my idea:
I know that some members of the band are here reading our thoughts, and I know they probably don't want us all to have their e-mail addresses. So, guys, if you have thoughts about whether we should petition EastWest, pick a trustworthy jammer (perhaps Skadz, our fearless and heavily intoxicated leader) and tell him what you think, so that he can relay your thoughts to us. If you guys are into it, we'll get your back. :)
> I just got 'Test For Echo' today :-) (on it's release date, of course)
ALREADY??? Damn! You lucky Europeans!
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> From: Adam Barnhart <adamb@cfmc.com> > Subject: Journey To The Center Of Nothing In Particular > > Five Gratuitous CD's: > ===================== > 2. Rush: Rush
And I thought I was the only one that still listens to this one... :)
------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Digital Man \|/ ____ \|/ Secretary cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu "@'/ ,. \`@" UVM Comp Sci Student Assn d-man@dreamt.org /_| \__/ |_\ "He won't need a bed http://www.emba.uvm.edu/~cmerlo \__U_/ He's a digital man" - Peart ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Maintainer of the Official Dream Theater Frequently Asked Questions List http://www.emba.uvm.edu/~cmerlo/dtfaq.html
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Date: Fri, 06 Sep 1996 19:59:05 -0500 From: RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org> To: Heavy Metal Computer Nerds <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: awards n stuff Message-ID: <2.2.32.19960907005905.006aabc0@mail.inlink.com>
>MTV awards: What's wrong with the world? It's unbelievable how someone >like BECK can win an award, while DT, Fates Warning and other talented >bands go unnoticed.
i agree the scene could use more of a prog edge but its a cult form of music and always will be... i think the awards actually were quite diverse... i mean- ll cool j, smashing pumpkins, metallica, kiss, fugees, and whoever else all thrown into one place, even if its all mainstream, is quite a thing. and the awards are based on popularity, not quality necessarily... of course popularity is based on labels pushing and promoting bands and whatnot.. but think about it... how would you feel if all those kids in nirvana shirts were wearing...... Dream Theater shirts! <gulp>
~Rip
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Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 21:01:46 -0400 From: DreamNDay@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1803 Message-ID: <960906210144_473355630@emout10.mail.aol.com>
>Hmmm...ringing in at approx 73:30 minutes is quite a bit. However, they >still have final cuts on what'll make it...and there could be about 80 >minutes put onto a CD (of course this takes out some oversampling quality, >I think). Mike and JP have both said that Met Pt2 *will* be there, so >don't count it out yet...
Personally, I don't even want a Metropolis Part 2. I've gotten used to calling the one on Images just Metropolis.
A little late on this one:
>I've yet to meet a Dream Theater fan that I don't like. I sure have, oh boy I have, but I'm not gonna go into it.
>Or Alanis Morrissette! EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW! I've changed so musch over the summer. I've actually gotten used to her voice, and I even sort of kinda maybe slightly like her, although I would never buy one of her albums. I'm also starting to think Bush isn't as bad as I used to think. (But don't jump to any conclusions).
>Congrats to Mike Bahr-May your marriage last as long and be as great as >mine has!!! Sorry this is late, but congratulations. Thanx to no one for filling me in when I asked to be filled in. No one is replying to my posts. Don't you guys like me? What a warm wekcome home I am getting. There's only one person who welcomed me back (You know who you are). I had a real shitty week and a half. My girlfriend broke up with me, I got sick, my friends got in a fight and everyone was pissed off for my last night on the island, I had to come back to ODDVILLE, and then I had to back to my shitty school. My life sucks, I'm constantly depressed, and all I ask is for my good buds to give me some support. Is that too much to ask??????? (Whew. Glad I got that outta my system!)
later--------------Brian
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