YTSEJAM digest 1844

From: ytsejam@ax.com
Date: Tue Sep 17 1996 - 19:06:36 EDT

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    Today's Topics:

      1) Re: network administrators
     by Jim Beavens <jbeavens@ichips.intel.com>
      2) the stick
     by "Dale R. Newberry" <mjnewb@mo.net>
      3) Re: Network Administrators
     by <CNG@tcco.com> (Chung Ng)
      4) Re: Dream Theater Win95 Theme !!!
     by Lisa Marie Peterson <peterson@fore.com>
      5) DT infuences
     by Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
      6) Re: network administrators
     by Lisa Marie Peterson <peterson@fore.com>
      7) si
     by RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org>
      8) Fire Garden
     by Thomas Bell <cmbell@inx.net>
      9) Humorous DTC
     by rwarren@memphisonline.com
     10) Re: Napalm Death
     by "Jan van Huizen" <aurora@mail.wirehub.nl>
     11) Lie and Apocalypse Music.
     by "Jeremy C. Hallum" <jhallum@bu.edu>
     12) Re: Old Yes Stuff
     by "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
     13) Re: bla bla bla
     by "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
     14) Re: Old Yes Stuff
     by "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
     15) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1842
     by "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
     16) G3 Tour Dates
     by jskewes@why.net (jskewes)
     17) Re: Old Yes Stuff
     by Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org>
     18) I'm Back!!!
     by Bryce Bukowsky <bryce@users.primary.net>
     19) Lie and Apocalypse Music.
     by kurt@fgallery.com
     20) GTR...
     by Jeff Ballard <jballa@ctp.com>
     21) Jars of Clay/Deus Ex Machina/ProgDay festival
     by walter@orlinter.com (Walter Semerenko)
     22) Lyrics.
     by Ben Laussade <laussade@sprynet.com>

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    Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 12:07:58 -0700
    From: Jim Beavens <jbeavens@ichips.intel.com>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: network administrators
    Message-ID: <199609171910.MAA03641@ichips.intel.com>

    > After a long and tiring fight with our network administrator....I'M BACK.
    >Anyone else have a problem with these people that feel us fans
    >shouldn't receive DT related mail at work??

    Hehe, who says they have to know? =)

    -- 
       Jim Beavens <jbeavens@ichips.intel.com>    | If I had a witty remark that
    MD6 Design Engineer, Intel Corp, Hillsboro OR | would better the lives of my
      -=(UDIC)=- Subconscious Dragon -=(UDIC)=-   | fellow mankind, do you really
            ** I don't speak for Intel **         | think I would put it HERE?
    

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    Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 14:36:28 -0600 From: "Dale R. Newberry" <mjnewb@mo.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: the stick Message-ID: <323F0BCC.3DD3@mo.net>

    Yeah, I've seen sticks before (you know, those keen 12-string instruments Marcel mentioned last jam). Nick Beggs played one with the neo-celtic/progressive-type band Iona, and Chris something (can't remember his last name at the moment) also played one on occasion with the heavy industrial band Circle of Dust (he uses one in the video for "Telltale Crime" - that's where I first saw one used and wondered what the heck it was). I have heard that they are rather difficult to play, and only a small number of people can really play them. And they do look pretty cool, too.

    Dale R. Newberry

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    Date: Tue, 17 Sep 96 15:41:01 EDT From: <CNG@tcco.com> (Chung Ng) To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Network Administrators Message-ID: <vines.3hH8+qmjDmA@tcx.tcco.com>

    | From: Timothy Adams <adamst@wasc.egginc.com> | Subject: Long time away....need help catching up. | | After a long and tiring fight with our network administrator....I'M BACK. | Anyone else have a problem with these people that feel us fans | shouldn't receive DT related mail at work?? Ahhhh, they can kiss off!!!

    I'm a network administrator and I love when people want to send/receive DT email! :)

    Actually, he/she is probably just worried about being bombarded by junkmail or mailbombs. Just tell him/her that we're above all that!

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    Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 13:06:01 -0700 From: Lisa Marie Peterson <peterson@fore.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Dream Theater Win95 Theme !!! Message-ID: <2.2.32.19960917200601.006af120@irvin>

    At 11:37 AM 9/17/96 -0700, Jan-Michael wrote:

    >Go get it, NOW.

    YES! Absolutely! I installed it about a week ago, it is sooooo cool! Some guy at work wants it on his computer & he doesn't even know who DT is. Hmmm, looks like it's time for a conversion...

    Lisa Marie Peterson peterson@fore.com "Dog Years - for every sad son of a bitch."

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    Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 16:18:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com> To: Dream Theater Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: DT infuences Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960917161358.13557A-100000@bdmserver>

    There are many times when I listen to groups like Kansas, Rush, and Yes where I hear bits where I am like "this sounds a little like DT". Rush's La Villa St. (sp) sounds a lot like something DT would do. My fiance's older sister thought DT sounds like Kansas. So there really are a lot of bands that have influenced DT and it is very noticeable, unlike Tori Amos who's major influence was Jimmy Paige and Zeppelin...

    On a side note: If anyone wants tickets to the Oct 6 soldout KISS concert in DC, I have 4 that I need to sell at cost. $40.50 a ticket if anyone is interested email me.

    |-----------------------------------------------------------------------| | Pat Daugherty pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com | |=======================================================================| | "Every breath leaves me one less to my last" --Dream Theater | | "That is not an option, Mr. Mulder" --X-Files | |-----------------------------------------------------------------------| | Hail to the Redskins 2-1 * Go Orioles-Playoff bound in 1996!!! | |-----------------------------------------------------------------------|

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    Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 13:21:16 -0700 From: Lisa Marie Peterson <peterson@fore.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: network administrators Message-ID: <2.2.32.19960917202116.0069b094@irvin>

    At 12:17 PM 9/17/96 -0700, you wrote: >> After a long and tiring fight with our network administrator....I'M BACK. >>Anyone else have a problem with these people that feel us fans >>shouldn't receive DT related mail at work?? > >Hehe, who says they have to know? =)

    Oh, I'm sorry... was I supposed to tell someone I'm doing this? ;)

    \\\|/// \\ - - // ( @ @ ) +---------oOOo-(_)-oOOo----------+ | Lisa Marie Peterson | | Administrative Assistant | | CellAccess Division | | FORE SYSTEMS WEST | | email peterson@fore.com | | internet http://www.fore.com | +------------------Oooo----------+ oooO ( ) ( ) ) /

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    Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 16:03:12 -0500 From: RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org> To: Heavy Metal Computer Nerds <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: si Message-ID: <2.2.32.19960917210312.006c95d8@mail.inlink.com>

    > >I think I saw Chevy Chase on Conan O'Brien last night (though I may be >hallucinating from lack of sleep), so unless he died after they taped it >(provided it wasn't a re-run), then he is alive as far as I know.

    whhhoa... as if the elvis sightings weren't enough :)

    NEW VAI TODAY!!!! AAAAAGHHHHHHHEEEEGKA:GK:JDAK!!!!! ok had to clear that out of my system too...

    anyways i think i'll most surely start with TFTO from yes now, since Itchy said

    >I would never suggest buying "Tales From Topographic Oceans" as a first >purchase... This one is just too "weird" to get into, especially the second >half.

    definately up my alley :) i also remember people saying the same thing about Tori's Under the Pink and its probably my favorite Amos disc. most likely snag up 90125 next, or CttE. i actually already own Union and Talk but i dont know if thats considered ^real^ yes, even though its great music. thanks for all the suggestion help guys! :)

    oh yeah, its been a while since i got an EOJ... gimme an EOJ dammit! ;) ~Rip

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    Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 17:03:30 -0400 From: Thomas Bell <cmbell@inx.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Fire Garden Message-ID: <199609172103.RAA10476@inx>

    Does anyone have any opinions on the new Vai album? I would like to go pick it up, but I would like to know what it sounds like first. Corey Bell

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    Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 16:24:59 -0500 From: rwarren@memphisonline.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Humorous DTC Message-ID: <199609172124.QAA08788@ford.socomm.net>

    I know DT has a diverse fan base.... from all parts of the world...of all races...both sexes.......wide age range....etc. I never knew how large the age range was until I searched the fan network. I did a search in the central time zone to see if there were any DT fans in my area. Now comes the shock. A gentlemen by the name of Douglas H. Porter was listed in Mobile, AL. Mr. Porter (I say Mr. out of respect for my elders) age......192 years old!!!! Check it out!!!! hehehehe!!!!!!

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    Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 23:28:10 +0000 From: "Jan van Huizen" <aurora@mail.wirehub.nl> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Napalm Death Message-ID: <199609172128.VAA22009@poindexter.wirehub.nl>

    > Hi there!! I'm a great Napalm Death fan, and I want everyone who > wants to get rid of a Napalm cd to mail me with their price. I > collect everything. >

    Are you sure you're on the right list ? hehe

    Greetings,

    Aurora

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    Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 17:47:19 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jeremy C. Hallum" <jhallum@bu.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Lie and Apocalypse Music. Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9609171708.B172871-0100000@acs1.bu.edu>

    Well, being desperate to get my hands on a copy of Lie (just to get TLF, of course) I tried Apocalypse Music's site on the net. No dice. The only DT stuff they have are the Live at the Marquee discs (both german and Japanese). Bummer. But on a higher note, I did order Lemur Voice from a music store down the street. A big city like Boston, and not a copy to be found anywhere. *sigh* 24 hours til I get my mitts on a copy of Shadow Gallery!! WOO HOO!!!

    -jeremy

    +==========================================================================+ # _ ,/| #grad student, Boston U.# jhallum@bu.edu # # '\`o O' # Boston, MA 02134 # Seen on the bumper of a Shadow # # =(_^_)= # Astronomy # Battlecrab: # # |U| # <*> <*> <*> # Oh, I'm sorry, was that YOUR world? # # # Jeremy Hallum # Morden '96: He knows what YOU want! # +==========================================================================+

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    Date: Tue, 17 Sep 96 18:00:42 EDT From: "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Old Yes Stuff Message-ID: <9609172200.AA06811@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>

    Neil, I must dispute this.

    firstly, I will agree on the first two album ratings. Although Time and a Word deserves a 2. I bought them last, but they still have good points. The Yes album was your starting point, yet you only give it a 3. I would give it at least a 4 if not a 5. I aggree with Fragile, but maybe a 5 is in order there. Close to the Edge is fine, but Tales? That album is overload. granted, it's great prog rock music, but it's still overload. Four songs ranging in at 20 minutes each? And it's very complex both lyrically and musically. I'd give that a 3. Going for the one you slag, but you overlook Awaken, which is a classic piece in its own rite. And Relayer? Definitely a 3 as well. Patrick Moraz is different from Wakeman, yes, but the music is still great. I sometimes wish he could've stayed with Yes longer. Tormato is not as good as going for the one, which I would've given a 2, but it doesn't deserve a 1 And you totally overlook Drama, which I give a 4. I know you stopped buying Yes, but I would give this album a listen anyway. yes, it doesn't have John Anderson on vocals or Wakeman on keys, but there is great prog rock here, such as Machine Messiah, and Tempus Fuget, among others. Yes, you can say 90125 onward is bad, but 90125 in itself is a great album, imho. Not as progressive, but the key tracks are Changes, Our Song, Cinema, and Hearts. Of course that is the album that produced Owner of a lonely Heart, Yes's big hit. Big Generator is good, but not as good, and Union is good, but overproduced, and talk is all right. You also forgot to mention YesShows. and ABWH. Not first buys, though. i still stand by The Yes Album, Fragile and Close to the Edge as firsts for Yes, and 90125 as well. If you want an all-encompassing view of Yes, try YesStory or YesYears box set if you have the cash. The box set is expensive but much better because you get a good summary of the band. Neil, everyone has his opinions, but remember that the question was for a good starting point to get into yes. Fragile Close to the Edge, 90125 and the Yes album are the albums to buy if you can't afford the compilations.

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    Date: Tue, 17 Sep 96 18:06:13 EDT From: "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: bla bla bla Message-ID: <9609172206.AA16920@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>

    I may agree with the guittar sounding relatively the same sonically through DT's albums, and maybe the bass sounding the same, if low on the albums, I must take an argument with the drums and keyboard reference to sounding the same. On WDADU, the drums sounded ... well ... bad, due to poor production. Even the bass sound on WDADU was overcompressed, which sounded cool in some ways, but bad in others. On IW, we don't know what the drums sound like minus the toms because of the triggers. Awake sounds good drumwise, and ACOS has the can of a snare, whcih I like and the drums don't echo like they do on Awwake.

    You can never ever say that keyboards sound the same. There are so many different sounds, and when Derek joined up, he used different keyboards and different sounds. Kevin never used the same sound throught a song. He may have used some of the same sounds throughout an album, but it never got old, at least with me. Even JP whips out an acousitic now and then. What do you want him to do? Use a pedal steel like Steve Howe? Mess with different effects? How can DT experiment and sound different and better?

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    Date: Tue, 17 Sep 96 18:09:05 EDT From: "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Old Yes Stuff Message-ID: <9609172209.AA09527@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>

    Syrinx, many many people will disagree strongly with you, even going so far as to say tat Drama isn't a Yes album. I mentioned it, so don't be pissed with me. I don't think it's a good starting point, though. I love the album, but it's not Yes as most people see it.

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    Date: Tue, 17 Sep 96 18:11:24 EDT From: "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1842 Message-ID: <9609172211.AA30493@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>

    I need to say this. Lemur voice rocks. But Enchant? Toned down drums?> That's why I liked Enchant in the first place, due to the wild drumming on it. Oh well, I guess I'd have to hear it. Hope Manga Carta is still producing those guys. and that they didn't change labels.

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    Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 17:18:11 -0500 From: jskewes@why.net (jskewes) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: G3 Tour Dates Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19960917221811.0066c0f8@why.net>

    The G3 tour now has a site up at:

    http://www.g3tour.com

    It has a complete listing of announced dates.....!

    Jason

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    Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 18:22:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org> To: "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu> Subject: Re: Old Yes Stuff Message-ID: <Pine.BSD.3.91.960917182118.8685B-100000@astro.ocis.temple.edu>

    > Syrinx, many many people will disagree strongly with you, even going so far > as to say tat Drama isn't a Yes album. I mentioned it, so don't be pissed > with me. I don't think it's a good starting point, though. I love the album, > but it's not Yes as most people see it.

    I can disprove the Yes theroy:

    Steve Howe _OWNS_ the Yes logo. Chris Squire _OWNS_ the Yes name. Keeping that in mind, Drama is very much a YES album. I'd go so far it's in the top 3 that YES has ever done.

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    Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 17:27:11 -0500 (CDT) From: Bryce Bukowsky <bryce@users.primary.net> To: Ytsejam <Ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: I'm Back!!! Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.94.960917172010.27664C-100000@users.primary.net>

    Well, I finally got my account at Webster U. and finally re-subscribed to the Jam. I missed out on alot, but I had a friend keep me updated. Even though I was temporarily off the list, I never stopped listening to DT.

    Last night I logged on Skadz's page and it was playing Ytsejam. I right clicked on it and downloaded the MIDI file. Then I went into Encore and converted the sequence to measures. I then printed out the "74" pages. It took about a half hour even w/ Laser Printer. I would like to take my hat off to the person who put that sequence together. That must have took hours. The keyboard and drums esp. Well, it's great to be back.

    Bryce Bukowsky

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    Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 18:20:00 -0400 From: kurt@fgallery.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Lie and Apocalypse Music. Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.16.9.17.-14.20.0.2916992174.341961@bbs.fgallery.com>

    What other single besides TSM and Lie are there for awake? and For Images? and what opther songs do they have?

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    Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 15:30:18 -0700 From: Jeff Ballard <jballa@ctp.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: GTR... Message-ID: <323F267A.19D3@ctp.com>

    Just curious about other jammers interests...

    Anybody out there besides me like the album by the group GTR (circa mid 80's)? The two big songs from it (for those who may not know) were 'When the Heart Rules the Mind' and 'The Hunter'. My favorite tracks are 'Sketches in the Sun' and 'Tow the Line'.

    I would highly recommend it to anyone!

    I'm trying to think of who was in GTR - I'm in CA and my CD is in Georgia - Steve Howe and Steve Hackett were 2 members of the band. I can't think of who else.

    Just curious if anyone else has heard it and if so their thoughts.

    Jeff

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    Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 18:50:47 -0400 From: walter@orlinter.com (Walter Semerenko) To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Jars of Clay/Deus Ex Machina/ProgDay festival Message-ID: <20960917224757198.AAA206@prefferc>

    > If you want to check out some of the great stuff by Jars of Clay, > their web site is located at www.jarsofclay.com and there are lots of > sounds clips for you to check out. > > Yes, the album was produced by Adrian Belw (sp?). He also played strings > on a few songs. > > Give 'em a listen!

    I'll second that. I don't own the album, but you can get their CD in BMG or Columbia House (I think). Overall, the JOC are pretty good. They don't have a drummer and some songs have a repetitive drum beat. But musically there is a little bit of cello, some piano, and a lot of good acoustic rhythms. If you are expecting DT musically, forget it. I describe them as a water-down, stripped down, version of echolyn. Some of the music is minally progressive, but they rely more on pop melodies. They are christians, but don't fret, no preachy lyrics.

    They are gaining respect from many people like Sting, Adrian Belew, and King Crimson. Now, what do those bands have in common? hum!?

    > I just had to write about the disc I bought this Friday (the 13th......). It > was by an italian group called Deus Ex Machina and the disc was called > ...eerrrrrr.... (should have brought it with me to school....) "de > republica" (???????)... ANyway, amazing stuff!!!!!!!! Can't seem to be able > to get it out of my cdplayer... The style is very much derived from King > Crimson with influences from various other 70's sympho/prog bands..... If

    > you're into that kind of shit ;) go get it!!!!!

    You should of seen them in concert at ProgDay '96! Alberto Piras (vocalist) is a clown on stage. He makes fun of being pretentious. I thought his facial expressions were hilarious...he sings in Latin and reads off a lyrics sheet. His vocal gymnastics are amazing...he does grunts, sings high and maintains control, sings passionately, and has great diction. At one point, the guitarist got on Piras sholders and played! I highly recommend the live album _Diacronie Metronomiche_ as starters. This is only for people who are looking for an adventurous listen. The music is very complex, and there are lots of time changes.

    And if you are looking for a contemporary band in the vein of KC, check out Anekdoten _Vemod_. Crisp production and heavy riffs.

    Walter. PS. I had a great time at ProgDay '96 and I wish more people knew about it. It wasn't publicized that well, but there were many bands from different countries and different styles. It was held at a farm in Chapel Hill, NC and it was kind of like a clean-version of Woodstock. Last year, Peter Renfro tried contacting DT to play, and I never asked him how it went, but I ask Peter if he could get them in next year. Just wanted to let you know that there are other great bands out there other than DT. You just have to do some careful reading and searching because there are thousands bands out there that you may like. rec.music.progressive is good place to start.

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    Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 16:01:30 -0700 From: Ben Laussade <laussade@sprynet.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Lyrics. Message-ID: <199609172301.QAA05796@m5.sprynet.com>

    >I don't think she caught on to the hint that those songs have a certain >symbolism. I take the time to listen to the music as well as the lyrics. >She just seems to hear "loud guitars and a crappy snare sound". Too >bad for her... If she listened to the lyrics, she might open her ears and >mind to what the songs REALLY mean.

    Hmmm. I guess I must be a lot wierder than I thought. Am I the only one that doesn't really give a hoot about lyrics? I buy CD's because there are musicians on them. Not because there are authors on them. Like I've said before, only the greatest music can express emotion withOUT words (not necissarily without vocals). An interesting idea for a band/group...in Las Vegas, there's a show called "Mystere". It's the Cirque de Soleil people. In the show, they have a lot of music, and singers...but no words. They're just singing gibberish syllables. Now, since there were wierd clowns and assorted strange things prancing around on stage (really cool show), I wasn't paying much attention to the music, if it was amazingly good or anything, but it did complement the performance very well. Anywho (yes, there is a point), does anyone know if there are any bands/groups that use this idea at all, either all the time or just for a few songs.

    >Some of you know that I have a friend named Debbie that listens >to country music. I hate it, but what can I do. Country music got >to her before I could save her.

    I don't see how we have the right to bash country fans..country is definately not MTV mainstream, but there are a helluva lot more country fans than prog fans. Also, I kinda like it. :)

    >What is this guy called "mincrimer" doing on the DT digest if he hates >them so much?

    He's not, so don't flame him. He'll never see it. :)

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    This .sig....it's too small. I need something bigger. (or is that the other way around? :)

    >otherwise all the shedding he's done all these years would only >have him giving guitar lessons to zit-faced kids and making sandwiches to >pay the rent.

    First of all, what's wrong with zits? :) Second of all, John Petrucci has a shedding problem? Does he wanna know about rogaine with minoxodyl? Or, in his case, rogaine with mixolydian. :)

    >(i asked this thinking that there was no way he could come up with a band >more talented than metallica. I know i know. people can change. don't >shoot me. i had been living a musically sheltered life).

    Yeah, I remember when Lars Ulrich was God. :)

    >hey ben how bout some more visual music? ya know the duh duh duh duh duh >duh duh duh -erotomania

    YEAH!!!!! :) I loved that thread. It ruled completely. If I do it again, will I get mobbed and beaten to death? If not, yipyip! :)

    >Can't we just turn *this* into the Rush mailinglist and use "Voices" >as the official DT mailinglist, from now on ? :-) That would RULE !

    Dammit Beavuth, that would thuck.

    ><enter music> ><enter eddie whining about something> ><exit music>

    Wouldn't that fit any band with a vocalist? Minus instrumentals, of course...and the name of the vocalist changes accordingly. If you wanted, you could consider any singing whining. BAM! HA! :) Holy gompers. That had no point whatsoever.

    >uh.. like.. Dream Theater can play any queensryche song,easily..id like >to see if the guys from QR can play take the time or Metropolis >correctly.. oh yeah de garmo can solo like JOhny P does? ..sure right >

    huhuhuhuhuhu...he thaid "P"..huhuhuhuhuhuh

    >Heyyy way to go rick!!! cheers to him!! Mindcrimer sux... he just posts >this sh*t to feel secure about his fanatism..

    huhuhuhuuuhuh.....he said "fanatism"...huhuhuhuhuhuhuh

    >Yeah..sorry..i got carried away ..(p*ssed off) by this moron >

    huhuhuhuhuhuh.....he said "pissed"...huhuhuhuh

    :-)

    >I just got the Awake songbook last night. > >Anyone seen this yet?

    I've got the books for both albums...and I don't even play guitar. Is that true fandom, or true stupidity? You be the judge. :)

    >Like Damon said, get "Close To The Edge" first ! I would never suggest >buying "Tales From Topographic Oceans" as a first purchase...

    Hmmm.....Is that anything like "Tales From Pornographic Oceans" by OOHHH YYEEESS!!!!! ? :)

    >All of us get lost in the darkness _ _____ ___ _ _ _ _ >Dreamers learn to steer by the stars (`)(_```_)/``_)(`)_(`)(`)_(`) >All of us do time in the gutter RUSH | | ) ( ( (_ | _ | \_ / >Dreamers turn to look at the cars THE PASS (_) (_) \___)(_) (_) (__/

    Itchy: That is a damned cool .sig. I like yer name. :)

    TTFN!

    ___ ____ __ _ ( o) ( __) ( \( ) | _) ( __) ( )\ ) (_o__) (____) (_) \_) yeah, YOU try making a B. :)

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