YTSEJAM digest 1853

From: ytsejam@ax.com
Date: Fri Sep 20 1996 - 15:24:58 EDT

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                                YTSEJAM Digest 1853

    Today's Topics:

      1) Re: Band not a Band
     by Ed Reed <ereed@comp.uark.edu>
      2) Re: FW: Potential for Credit Fraud - Scary (fwd)
     by Lisa Marie Peterson <peterson@fore.com>
      3) VAI'S FIRE GARDEN
     by Jonathan Case <jcase@ROSSBY.METR.ou.edu>
      4) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1852
     by "Richard A. Bond, Jr." <rickbond@concentric.net>
      5) Re: Helloween Drummer
     by Jeff Hayes <haye@micro.ti.com>
      6) Re: working man cd
     by Kain <kain@caribe.net>
      7) for Skadz
     by BILL HUSTON <HUSTON@IOMEGA.COM>
      8) War and Anti-War
     by Adam Barnhart <adamb@cfmc.com>
      9) HELP ME
     by fbarbosa@solar.com.br (Frederico Mello Simoes Barbosa)
     10) TIME MACHINE/ANGRA
     by fbarbosa@solar.com.br (Frederico Mello Simoes Barbosa)
     11) No, not again...
     by Kain <kain@caribe.net>
     12) Hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
     by "Ryan P. Skadberg" <skadberg@wicked.stigmata.org>
     13) Scoobaca
     by Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
     14) misc
     by Chris Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu>
     15) NDTC - ref: Journey...
     by Jeff Ballard <jballa@ctp.com>
     16) Altura (a really really fine Magna Carta band)
     by part@dutccia.tudelft.nl (Gerralt Partiman)
     17) Re: Altura (a really really fine Magna Carta band)
     by Tymoteusz Altman <altman@sfu.ca>
     18) dt tree, when a band is not a band
     by jazzmin@ou.edu
     19) New CDs
     by rwarren@memphisonline.com

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    Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 09:37:31 -0500 (CDT)
    From: Ed Reed <ereed@comp.uark.edu>
    To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: Re: Band not a Band
    Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.94.960920093521.19692A-100000@comp.uark.edu>

    If you want to discuss line-up changes in a band, how about Savatage? I
    don't have all the line-ups in front of me, but I know they've barely had
    a stable line-up for more than one or two albums. Of course, as long as
    the name Savatage is attached to a band it will always be Savatage, as Jon
    Oliva (who really isn't even in the band anymore) pretty much writes all
    the material. For that matter, from what little I've heard, Dr. Butcher
    is basically Savatage Pt. 2.

    DrX

    /=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-\ /-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-\
    | I am the way, I am the light... | Ed Reed |
    | I am the dark inside the night. | ereed@comp.uark.edu |
    | I hear your hopes, I feel your dreams... | ehr@engr.uark.edu |
    | And in the dark I hear your screams. | drx@reich.uark.edu |
    <=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=|=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=->
    | Don't walk away, just take my hand... | |
    | And when you make your final stand... | Savatage -- |
    | I'll be right there, I'll never leave... | 'Believe' |
    | All I ask of you is Believe. | |
    \=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-/ \-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-/

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    Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 07:49:34 -0700
    From: Lisa Marie Peterson <peterson@fore.com>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: FW: Potential for Credit Fraud - Scary (fwd)
    Message-ID: <2.2.32.19960920144934.006ad460@irvin>

    At 09:30 PM 9/19/96 -0700, you wrote:
    >> >I called this morning and had my name removed. The representative
    >> >will need your name and social security number to remove you from
    >> >the list.

            Actually, at this point they are no longer taking requests over the
    phone (and you don't have to give anyone your SS#).

            This is the probably the best way to do it...

    >Fax your name and address to LEXIS-NEXIS at (513) 865-1930 and ask to be
    removed from the P-Trax database.
    >Or you can mail the same info to LEXIS-NEXIS, P.O. Box 933, Dayton, Ohio 45401.

    Lisa Marie Peterson
    peterson@fore.com

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    Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 10:23:08 -0500 (CDT)
    From: Jonathan Case <jcase@ROSSBY.METR.ou.edu>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: VAI'S FIRE GARDEN
    Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.90.960920101956.15396A-100000@rossby>

    Just a few comments on this new CD and some responses to other's comments:

    1) THIS CD RULES
    2) STEVE VAI IS AN AWESOME SINGER
    3) WHY WAS HE WASTING HIS TIME WITH DEVIN TOWNSEND??!!
    4) HOW CAN **ANYONE** SAY THAT STEVE VAI'S SINGING RUINED THIS CD??
    5) STEVE HAS A GREAT, STRONG, DEEP VOICE, WITHOUT HAVING TO SCREAM.

    IN other words,
    I love this cd, and his weird tinges make it that much more original and
    fantastic.

    Jon C.

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    Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 11:35:36 -0700
    From: "Richard A. Bond, Jr." <rickbond@concentric.net>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1852
    Message-ID: <3242E3F8.6331@concentric.net>

    > >I was a little ummmm...unsure about Mark Slaughter...he did
    > >well...maybe it was just weird hearing that voice again after all these
    > >years since the last Slaughter album. :)
    >
    > It's been less than two years since the last Slaughter album.
    > Fear No Evil was released in the spring of 1995.

    Well...it's been more than that since I've personally heard him. That's
    all I meant. I didn't know of that album...so...how was that album? :)

    Rick Bond

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    Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 10:44:56 -0500
    From: Jeff Hayes <haye@micro.ti.com>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: Helloween Drummer
    Message-ID: <2.2.32.19960920154456.006e0650@pobox.micro.ti.com>

    I heard a rumor a while ago that he committed suicide by walking in front of
    a train or something. I can't remember who told me that, so take it for
    what it's worth. Helloween is one of my faves, although I only have the 2
    "Keeper" CDs and the Walls of Jericho/Judas compilation CD. I haven't heard
    any of the material with the new singer. What do you think of "Time of the
    Oath" compared to the "Keeper" CDs? Feel free to e-mail directly so as not
    to clog bandwidth on the list... unless other people are interested?

    Shred 'til yer dead.
    Jeff aka SLIDER

    In response to:
    Hey all

    Ive seen some people post about Helloween before, so i thought id throw
    this question out to any of you "in the know"
    On the liner notes of "The Time of the Oath", they dedicate it to their former
    drummer from 2 albums ago. Does anyone know what happened to him?
    Did he die? Just Curious

    thanks in advance

    mmo
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    Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 11:58:56 -0400
    From: Kain <kain@caribe.net>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: working man cd
    Message-ID: <3242BF40.3087@caribe.net>

    Hey anybody know Jon Moury? I lost his email address in a Netscape crash
    and can't seem to find him. I sent him my $16 for a WM cd but haven't
    had any luck yet and it's been 3 weeks almost I guess. So if anybody
    knows if something happened or Jon, if you're reading this, email me!
    Hey I was wondering, since this is the net and things always slip away,
    has there been any wav or something like with the new DT stuff? :)

    -- 
    /---------------------------------------------------------------------\
    | "Best way to love anything, is keeping in mind you might lose it."  |
    | "Spread before me is my soul, I'm learning to live." Dream Theater  |
    |                   mailto:kain@caribe.net                            |
    | Visit the official page of the world's best band, Dream Theater at  |
    |                  http://www.rsabbs.com/dt                           |
    \---------------------------------------------------------------------/
    

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    Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 09:38:35 -0600 From: BILL HUSTON <HUSTON@IOMEGA.COM> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: for Skadz Message-ID: <s2426559.096@IOMEGA.COM>

    Sorry to post this here but I have no choice: Skadz, I haven't received any jams since the 16th. I've tried to email you personally to both addresses but they bounce back as undeliverable. I also have resubscribed yesterday and have had no response or acknowledgement. Can you check this out?

    Wilmo

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    Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 09:39:52 -0700 From: Adam Barnhart <adamb@cfmc.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: War and Anti-War Message-ID: <199609201639.JAA19648@main.cfmc.com>

    Drive-by Comments on Digest 1850:

    >From: Partha Mukhopadhyay <ahtrap@umich.edu> > >Stve Vai's fire garden, if it were concluded at the end of the Fire Garden >Suite, might have contended for my favorite album ever.....too bad he >starts singing on side two, it's gonna have to settle for best album of >the year 1997 honors in my book.....

    You know, I remember hearing comments like that when Satriani released "Flying In A Blue Dream," which I still think is his best record. I dunno if Vai can sing, I haven't heard the record, so I'm not saying this isn't a valid remark (I'll get it this weekend), but it almost seems like you'd better start with a record with vocals, like Eric Johnson did, if you don't want to be criticized for your singing. Jeff Beck had the same problem (of course, he's not really much of a singer, so maybe that's not as valid).

    >From: "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu> > >This might be blasphemy, but I am more annoyed about the comments that Rage >doesn't use keyboards. Like this is a good thing? OK, you alternative lovers >can have your "every-song-sounds-the-same" sound, and I will take my >versatile keyboards and produce better music with morre variety in its >texture and probably more talent in its composition. By the way, apparently >this guy isn't aware that there is an album coming out in the winter and that >the EP was released last year. This is about a year and a half between >releases. So there. When was the last time you heard anything intelligent com >from an alternative list, anyway?

    Well, I was on alt.music.pearl-jam for a while a year and a half ago or so. Didn't find it too odious, but there wasn't enough there to hold my attention. Same sort of thing at the shows....I really like Pearl Jam -- think "Ten" is a masterpiece -- but I don't know that I'm a prototypical fan.

    Anyhow, 311 isn't yet what I'd call a really successful band, commercially. They've got the one tune ("Down") that's doing well and that's about it. I mean, the band's been around for a while...I'm not an expert, but I believe the last release is their fourth full-length effort (they've got a couple of EP's, too, as I recall). P-Nut can play a little bass and they can write a tune, but they're a little like Fishbone, and Fishbone has never had much widespread commercial success. I don't have the pot proclivity to really appreciate the band, though....

    As far as Rage Against The Machine goes, I'd have to agree with the sentiment that Tom Morello is a phenomenal player. I'd go far enough to recommend Lock Up's album, "Something Bitchin' This Way Comes," where he got a start. If you see it in the cut-out bins (about the only place it is anymore), it's worth a few bucks. It's nothing like RATM, though. Rage Against The Machine, instrumentally, is pretty strong all the way around...Zack needs a few more lyrics, though (then again, maybe he doesn't....I'm not a Radical Communist and don't agree, politically, with a lot of the lyrical content). The new record's pretty amusing, though...the CD booklet includes a pictoral reading list including the bane of every undergrad in the Social Sciences, "The Marx-Engels Reader." Ugh.....

    Adam D. Barnhart adamb@cfmc.com ydnt85a@prodigy.com

    Five Gratuitous CD's: ===================== 1. Rush: Test For Echo 2. Soundgarden: Badmotorfinger 3. Cream: Wheels of Fire (Disc 1) 4. Cream: Wheels of Fire (Disc 2) 5. Primus: Frizzle Fry

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    Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 14:05:45 -0300 From: fbarbosa@solar.com.br (Frederico Mello Simoes Barbosa) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: HELP ME Message-ID: <199609201705.OAA25628@terra.solar.com.br>

    Hello ALL !!! :)))))

    I've heard of several PROGRESSIVE METAL bands that are really good : SHADOW GALERY, FATES WARNING, SYMPHONY-X, STRATOVARIUS, KING'S X, TIAMAT.

    Well, I've never listened to any of them. I'm asking for anyone of you Ytsejams to tell me what records the bands mentioned above have released and what CD'S I should buy.

    Thanks a lot !!!

    LONG LIVE DREAM THEATER !!!

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    Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 14:05:42 -0300 From: fbarbosa@solar.com.br (Frederico Mello Simoes Barbosa) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: TIME MACHINE/ANGRA Message-ID: <199609201705.OAA25619@terra.solar.com.br>

    >Who else has this same taste? I know that I certainly do and I am looking >for some bands that are in the same area. All you guys love DT but it seems >that people get subdivided (ha) into groups when it comes to other prog/metal >bands. Any of these fit into the closer to SG than Magellan or Marillon >(yuck)? Fates Warning, Clockwork, King's X, and Crimson Glory? Anyone, >anyone??

    Well, Jammers, let me introduce to you. My name is FREDERICO (26 years old). I live in BRASIL.

    I really love PROGRESSIVE ROCK. I'm allways listening PINK FLOYD, YES, MARILION, GENESIS, APHRODITE'S CHILD, RICK WAKEMAN, EMERSON,LAKE&PALMER, RUSH, JEHTRO TULL, RENAISSANCE.

    I dig METAL too. Some of my favourite bands are IRON MAIDEN, METTALICA, ANGRA, LIVING COLOUR, STEVE VAI, JOE SATRIANI, STEVE MORSE, YNGWIE MALMSTEEN.

    I really love DREAM THEATER ! When I first listened to DT, I thought to myself: "Hey, this is the first time that I get in touch with something really as good as RUSH". Then, I bought all DT official albums.

    I became to have an interest in PROGRESSIVE METAL. After buying all DT collection, I decide to buy aN album from TIME MACHINE.TIME MACHINE is a PROGRESSIVE METAL band from ITALY. Its new release "Act II : Galileo" has got ONLY ONE MUSIC : A 52 MINUTES MUSIC !!! If you like DT, please listen to TIME MACHINE. You will get dizzy !!!

    ANGRA is one of my favourite BRASILIAN bands. Its new release ("Holy Land") has sold more than 100.000 copies in JAPAN. TIME MACHINE'S musicians really love ANGRA. If you ask them what are their favourite records, they will answer : "Holy Land" (ANGRA) and "Rage for Order" (QUEENSRYCHE).

    Does anyone here like ANGRA ??? Anyone ???

    Frederico

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    Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 13:08:10 -0400 From: Kain <kain@caribe.net> To: Jammers <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: No, not again... Message-ID: <3242CF7A.260@caribe.net>

    Shit, I seem to have had another crash...so could anyone forward me this post that was clearing a few things about the P-Trax thing? The one that said that they don't have your SS# and somethings more. I'll have to format my pc again 'cause everyone now and then my sis fucks with it, damn. -- /---------------------------------------------------------------------\ | "Best way to love anything, is keeping in mind you might lose it." | | "Spread before me is my soul, I'm learning to live." Dream Theater | | mailto:kain@caribe.net | | Visit the official page of the world's best band, Dream Theater at | | http://www.rsabbs.com/dt | \---------------------------------------------------------------------/

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    Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 13:15:15 -0400 (EDT) From: "Ryan P. Skadberg" <skadberg@wicked.stigmata.org> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii Message-ID: <199609201715.NAA14798@wicked.stigmata.org>

    Hey all ...

    Just a quick note on a few things.

    First, any boston area jammers who have not yet mailed me, please mail me this weekend. I will be sending a mail out to you all next Tues or Wed about some stuff.

    Second, RAHHHHHHHHHHH, Bonedance. These guys rock! If you like stuff like Rage Against the Machine or Korn, you should definately check these guys out. They are just amazing. Check out Paul Cashman's Bonedance mini home page to get some info on getting some tapes from him. They will hopefully have a CD out in 2 months :) (/me prays)

    Third, Superior. A little birdie sent me a copy of this CD until I can rustle up some money to actually purchase a copy of it. I definately like it, but still haven't given it the listen it needs to get a real opinion out of me.

    Fourth, Lemur Voice. Amazing stuff. These guys really definately have a lot going for them. I really like their sound and their music. Hope they come to the US on tour :) (with DT and SUperior of course :)

    Fifth, Administrative Stuff, I will be away for the weekend until Tuesday. If anything goes wrong with the jam, don't start mailing me. I will make sure all is well when I get back to Boston. As of last night, we are up to 867 subscribers. That will probably drop by a few once I get around to the 45 meg error mailbox :) Also, we are still missing one Bafu Vai.

    I think that is everything for now. Hope to see you all in a few weeks at the Con. Oh, speaking of the Con, there is a nasty rumor being spread that I am bringing enough beer to the Con for everyone to drink for free. It is completely and utterly UNtrue. All Con drinking will be done at local bars after the Con itself ends. Maybe we can get MP to go out for some shots of Jaeger :)

    I think that's all I am gonna spew about right now.

    Later! Skadz

    --------------------------------------------------------- Ryan P Skadberg skadz@soundlogic.com Internet / Network / Systems Consultant Sound Logic Consulting New Media Communications http://www.soundlogic.com http://www.mindstorm.com --------------------------------------------------------- left alone with a cold blank stare, i feel like giving up acos - dream theater ---------------------------------------------------------

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    Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 13:36:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com> To: Dream Theater Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Scoobaca Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960920133632.28711M-100000@bdmserver>

    - Mike Bahr - durnik@goodnet.com - Scoobaca RULES!

    what is Scoobaca?

    |-----------------------------------------------------------------------| | Pat Daugherty pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com | |=======================================================================| | "Every breath leaves me one less to my last" --Dream Theater | | "That is not an option, Mr. Mulder" --X-Files | |-----------------------------------------------------------------------| | Hail to the Redskins 2-1 * Go Orioles-Playoff bound in 1996!!! | |-----------------------------------------------------------------------|

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    Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 10:52:45 -0700 From: Chris Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: misc Message-ID: <199609201752.KAA27106@darkstar.ucsc.edu.>

    Wow, that whole database stuff just goes to show how many paranoid people are aout there. In reality, the only Big-Brother type "telling you how to think" thing out there is the MacOS. ;)

    As far as the Promised Land vs. "The" Promised Land, I think that the ides in the song is not that he is searching for _The_ promised land, (assumed to be a universal place) but just _A_ Promised land (i.e. a personal thing) -- also, since it's poetry (Song lyrics are poetry, I think we can agree on that), the rules of grammar don't always apply.

    ~Chris

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    Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 11:23:55 -0700 From: Jeff Ballard <jballa@ctp.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: NDTC - ref: Journey... Message-ID: <3242E13A.21A6@ctp.com>

    Someone mentioned Journey had a new album out.

    First, can anyone verify this? I may go check it out after work today. If I can verify I will post.

    Second, if it is out, has anyone heard it? I would love to hear a new, GOOD Journey album. Won't be the same as a new DT album, but they have put out some good music.

    Jeff

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    Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 18:19:48 +0200 From: part@dutccia.tudelft.nl (Gerralt Partiman) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Altura (a really really fine Magna Carta band) Message-ID: <9609181619.AA11271@dutccia.tudelft.nl>

    1. Hi there, I posted a short notice on this relatively new Magna Carta band called Altura. Well, no reaction at all while to my surorise some of the jammers picked up Lemur Voice, who are also on Magna Carta. (They are the first foreign Magna Carta signing by the way).

    One more time: if you pay a visit to the CD-store or you get that monthly/weekly/daily(!) itch saying yu've gotta score some CDs, why don't you listen.

    I think that Magna Carta is really doing something good here for progressive bands and it would be too bad if they didn't succeed because some of their releases are ignored.

    2. I've been planning to tell the following story for a long time. This is how I discovered DT. It was back in 90, I was a freshmen at the uni and had the afternoon off so I went to this store called Free Record Shop which is a big CD/record chain in the Netherlands. I wasn't really feeling wealthy at that time so I started browsing through the 'waste bin' until I discovered DT's debut for only FIVE guilders! (One dollar is approx. 1,70 guilders, regular CDs are sold for about 40 guilders- damn' thieves). I didn't really know the band except that in a review of Pshychotic Waltz's 'Social Grace' the writer mentioned PW resembled DT. I decided to listen and WHAAAMMMMM!!, the power and melody hit me like a smash hammer! This band had everything and I played the damn' CD for about five months at least one time a day. As you can understand, I've been a fan ever since.

    I've listened to numerous bands and numerous genres but DT is absolutely lonely at the top IMNSHO. I hope all of you people enjoy music the way I do (no '2112' for me!) and keep looking for other talented groups. Prog must live!

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    Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 11:39:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Tymoteusz Altman <altman@sfu.ca> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Altura (a really really fine Magna Carta band) Message-ID: <199609201839.LAA09613@fraser>

    > > 1. Hi there, I posted a short notice on this relatively new Magna Carta band called Altura. > Well, no reaction at all while to my surorise some of the jammers picked up Lemur Voice, who are also on Magna Carta. (They are the first foreign Magna Carta signing by the way).

    i borrowed the CD from a friend, and i found that the music was uninspired. although they have good chops, the music didn't do anything for me, just like Ivanhoe. I also borrowed the Lemur Voice CD, and have to say that they have amazing chops. Some of the songs have great instrumental sections. I loved the 2nd song on the album (the instrumental one). but other than that, i found the melodies to also be uninspired, and forced. Although the singer has a good voice, I think he makes the songs sound boring. So just because the bands sound like DT in some ways, doesn't mean that you must go out and buy the cds. I'd recommend listening to them first. I didn't find anything original in their music, and I don't need another DT imitation. If I went out and bought them before borrowing them from a friend, I'd be really disappointed.

    later,

    tim

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    Date: Fri, 20 Sep 96 13:46:21 -0500 From: jazzmin@ou.edu To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: dt tree, when a band is not a band Message-ID: <3242e674308c002@cliff.ou.edu>

    I'm wondering what a tape tree is...

    Pink Floyd as it is known today may not have any of the originals, or only one, I forget if Nick/Rick is/are still with them or not. David Gilmore replaced Syd Barrett, Roger split in '89... This might be one band that meets yr criteria.

    Of course, I can be wrong. Just not very often.

    jazzmin

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    Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 14:10:10 -0500 From: rwarren@memphisonline.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: New CDs Message-ID: <199609201910.OAA12908@ford.socomm.net>

    I just a copy of Shadow Gallery's Carved in Stone. Planet Music had to order it for me. I just have to say it rocks!!!!!! Someone said they were Queensryche wannabes (I believe that was the word) but I find very little if any similarity. I am on my 2nd pass at listening to the entire CD. Brendt Allman is awesome!!! If you don't have this one get it. I believe I read that Carved in Stone was their second CD. Is this true? It is the only CD that shows up on the computer at Planet Music. If they have another does anyone have any information on how to get a copy?

    While I was there I picked up a copy of Mercy by Altura. I have mixed feelings. I like the music but at times it sounds forced. To me the complexity (time signatures, rhythms, etc.) in Dream Theater's music sounds natural. Altura sounds.....forced is the only word I can think of. Its like... okay, I'm going to play in 7/8 now so my song has a time change. These are first impressions... I am sure it will grow on me.

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