YTSEJAM digest 1857

From: ytsejam@ax.com
Date: Sat Sep 21 1996 - 16:47:42 EDT

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                                YTSEJAM Digest 1857

    Today's Topics:

      1) shreddin'
     by RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org>
      2) another quickie addon :)
     by RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org>
      3) 311 and Rage
     by GREG <gkrasnos@webspan.net>
      4) Fire Garden by Steve Vai
     by Graham Borland <graham@grelb.src.gla.ac.uk>
      5) Guitarists
     by Thomas Bell <cmbell@inx.net>
      6) RUSH! (NDTC)
     by evan andrew nelson <enelson@students.uiuc.edu>
      7) Re: RUSH! (NDTC)
     by Purplerx7@aol.com
      8) New Journey
     by James Patrick Beck <portny@ksu.edu>
      9) Lemur Voice link?
     by Chris Smith <chrissmith@llv.com>
     10) Lemur Voice Sound clips
     by Rick Audet <ytse@cris.com>
     11) Black Peppertones
     by "Susan Ostroske" <spatz13@msn.com>
     12) Lemur Voice
     by Lars Hellsten <larsh@ionsys.com>
     13) Prog Recommendations
     by Mark Metzger <mmetzger@bostech.com>
     14) Funeral songs - Part II
     by Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl>
     15) It Bites - Long & off-topic
     by Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl>
     16) sepultura
     by RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org>
     17) Joe Stump
     by acook@tiac.net (acook)
     18) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1856
     by acook@tiac.net (acook)

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    Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 09:09:05 -0500
    From: RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org>
    To: Heavy Metal Computer Nerds <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: shreddin'
    Message-ID: <2.2.32.19960921140905.006d0f0c@mail.inlink.com>

    >
    >I heard a few of his tracks and was stunned by his sheer speed. But under all
    >that technique was little else. If he came out 6-7 years ago, hhe probably
    >would have been up there with Yngwie, Paul Gilbert, Tony MacAlpine and Vinnie
    >Moore as one of the Shred Masters. I think the era of shred guitar has passed
    >(unfortunately). He doesn't seem to have the "tunes" under all those notes
    >like that other guys I mentioned.
    >

    plus, and the reason he isnt as popular, and the reason i will probably
    never buy one of his cds, is because its been done. if he came out 6 or 7
    years later then its a long gone thing by then... if you want a chance grab
    the reins while they're hot.

    >Guys like Stone Gossard and Kurt Cobain are being praised as innovators now...
    >

    well, they are. you may hate them, you may DESPISE them, you may want to go
    PISS ON COBAIN'S GRAVE. but they were innovaters. they werent talented,
    but that has nothing to do with being innovative. thats like saying SP is
    better than DT because they make more money and more airplay. by the turn
    of the 90s the 80s scene had just been overdone, and guys who hit it in the
    early 90s like nirvana and pearl jam were truly innovating the whole new
    wave. at that point i would much rather listen to nirvana than another
    yngwie clone. sure, joe's talented, he can make his on fame in that
    respect, but to be looked upon as a legend you cant go trying to do
    something someone else came up with better, or at the same intensity, years
    ago. i think pretty soon the 90s will come to a point of being overdone,
    alternative will die out, and a new form, hopefully more a la 80s :), will
    take the streets and the airwaves. patience :)

                                                            ~Rip

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    Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 09:10:41 -0500
    From: RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org>
    To: Heavy Metal Computer Nerds <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: another quickie addon :)
    Message-ID: <2.2.32.19960921141041.006d6264@mail.inlink.com>

    >
    >Stone Gossard imho is one of the less bad guitar player;s in alt,
    >today.. like that guy from Candlebox too..
    >

    peter klet is great... he likes those pentatonics, but man can he rip some
    stuff outta 'em. lucy was a great record, highly overlooked.. in fact, i'm
    gonna put 'er on now :)
                                                    ~Rip

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    Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 10:24:05 -0400
    From: GREG <gkrasnos@webspan.net>
    To: Ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: 311 and Rage
    Message-ID: <3243FA85.5F09@webspan.net>

    I agree that Rage and 311 are 2 very great bands that are out there
    today. Tom Morello, I think is one of the most exciting guitarists to
    hit the scene in a long time. Also take a listen to 311 earlier albums.
    I recommend "grass roots". It has a wider mix of ska,jazz,rap,and
    metal.

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    Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 16:10:35 +0100 (BST)
    From: Graham Borland <graham@grelb.src.gla.ac.uk>
    To: YtseJam <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: Fire Garden by Steve Vai
    Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.93.960921160831.4567A-100000@grelb.src.gla.ac.uk>

    I really like Fire Garden.

    It sounds like Steve had a lot of fun playing with his Weeny when he was
    younger, and I think I'd like to try it out. What exactly is a Weeny,
    and how much do they cost?

    Graham B.
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    Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 11:41:32 -0400
    From: Thomas Bell <cmbell@inx.net>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Guitarists
    Message-ID: <199609211541.LAA01823@inx>

            There is a lot of talk that shred guitar is still dead and that it
    won't be back but I believe that it is only a matter of time. When I got
    the new Steve Vai cd I heard a different kind of "shred". There was plenty
    of great melody and harmony but when the time come for a song to explode Vai
    never hesitates. It is refreshing to know that there are still players out
    there who can play and write as well as perform. It is only a matter of
    time before the trends in music change again but it is nice to know that
    true musicians are still involved in rock music and are making a vaiable
    contribution to music history. Now all we have to do is hold our breath
    while awaiting the next DT masterpiece that will totally floor us....
    Corey Bell

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    Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 11:03:35 -0500 (CDT)
    From: evan andrew nelson <enelson@students.uiuc.edu>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: RUSH! (NDTC)
    Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960921110102.19093A@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu>

    Well, after hitting redial for an hour, I finally have Rush tix to the
    St. Louis show on the 31st! I know Dale Newberry is going, anyone else
    going to make it to the show? I've been a Rush fan for about 5 years,
    but never got a chance to go to one of their shows before. Someone on
    here said that this is supposed to be their biggest production yet! I
    can't wait. I'll be wearing my Ytsejam shirt, so if you see a tall
    redhead with a Ytsejam shirt, say hi! Later..

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    Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 13:14:43 -0400
    From: Purplerx7@aol.com
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: RUSH! (NDTC)
    Message-ID: <960921131442_482875165@emout20.mail.aol.com>

    I'll have my Dream Theater (I+W) shirt on at the Dayton Ohio show on Oct 22.
     I have never seen a Rush show either, and I was hitting redial for 2 hours!
     I got pretty good seats though, arena level row CC. Rock!
      Ryan

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    Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 12:29:16 -0500 (CDT)
    From: James Patrick Beck <portny@ksu.edu>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: New Journey
    Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960921122637.2332A-100000@abc.ksu.ksu.edu>

    My roomate has been annoying me by listening to Journey ever since I told
    him about the new album. I saw that the album comes out October 22 and
    when I told him, he asked me if it was all of the "original" members?
    Can anybody help me out?? Thanks.

    Jim

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    Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 10:23:16 -0700
    From: Chris Smith <chrissmith@llv.com>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Lemur Voice link?
    Message-ID: <32442484.419C@llv.com>

    Does anyone know where I can find a Lemur Voice WWW link? I am
    desperate to find anything out about this band, since all of you have
    said such good things about it, but I don't want to spend $16 on a band
    I might not like.

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    Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 13:43:35 -0400 (EDT)
    From: Rick Audet <ytse@cris.com>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Lemur Voice Sound clips
    Message-ID: <199609211743.NAA13211@beasley.cris.com>

    I thank Mr. Chris White for refering me to a web page called Heady Metal for
    lots of sound clips. Unfortunately, there was no clip for Lemur Voice, whom
    I've been searching for a sound clip of.

    Anyone else have an idea where I might find a sound clip of Lemur Voice?
    Anyone? Marcel? Anyone?

    Thanks,

    -Rick

    /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
    \***************** Richard S. Audet ********************/
    /****************** ytse@cris.com ********************\
    \**** Graduate Student in Electrical Engineering ******/
    /********* University of Florida ********\
    \****** B.S.E.E. & B.Music MUE University of Miami, 1995 ******/
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    Date: Sat, 21 Sep 96 18:49:19 UT
    From: "Susan Ostroske" <spatz13@msn.com>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Black Peppertones
    Message-ID: <UPMAIL08.199609211851220426@msn.com>

    Have any of you heard of a band called The Black Peppertones? My landlord
    brought by a CD of theirs called Tumbling Ground last night... it's pretty
    good. I think they are SUPPOSED to be a Christian Country band, but they
    sound VERY Michael Hedges-esque to me. Of course, the songs all have vocals,
    but the similarity is there. Another act you could draw a line to is Counting
    Crows... only less pop oriented. Definately interesting...

    And while I'm taking up bandwidth...

    Rush: Test for Echo
    I HATED this the first couple of listens through. Now I like it. It is NOT
    Moving Pictures... it's not even close, but it's a very good album. Not
    flashy, just, well, pop. :)

    Steve Vai: Fire Garden
    Ok... I'm gonna get on my soapbox -- be warned!! (putting on CD for
    reference).

    1. There's a Fire in the House: typical Steve Vai rocker
    2. The Crying Machine: This is NICE! Kinda of a little jazz-rock number.
    This reminds me of something you'd heard in a HIP lobby. :)
    3. Dyin' Day: can we say Vai's take on Eric Johnson? With a bit of southern
    rock groove... but in ballad format. He used his single coil a LOT on this
    tune... but it's still the Jem.
    4. Whookam: a waste of space. In case you were wondering, this was recording
    for S&R but didn't make the disc.
    5. Blowfish: is this Steve's version of industrial?? Like, industrial guitar
    meets Robert Palmer in the late 80s? :) Anyone remember the song "Addicted
    to Love"?...
    6. The Mysterious Murder of Christian Tiera's Lover: This reminds me of
    something... something 80s... but I can't for the life of me figure out
    WHAT... was there a Whitesnake song??? And the end reminds me of Alien
    Water Kiss... (anyone seen the transcription for that?? It's INSANE!)
    7. Hand on Heart: For the Love of God meets Touching Tongues... with cleaner
    guitar tones...
    8. Bangkok: OHMIGAWD does he play piano well!! He's been listening to
    Yanni, btw... :)
    9. Fire Graden Suite: Hmmm.... Bull Whip: who's listening to DT now? :)
    Angel Food: Wow....that's a REAL piano!! Impressive miking.... (for those
    who don't know, miking a piano is an engineers worst nightmare) Taurus
    Bulba: 7:54-8:58.... errilly DT-easque... even the bass sound is the
    same... cttoi, so is the keyboard sound....
    10. Deepness: conrary to what it says, this isn't the first of Steve's voice
    on the record... listen to Fire Garden Suite CAREFULLY... some of those
    "keyboards" aren't keyboards... :)
    11. Little Alligator: Wow... someone other than my digs Chris Duarte!!
    IMHO, however, the solo in this is WAY too long... it tires out the song.
    That's actually a strat, btw....
    12. All About Eve: this is my fave... it sounds a LOT like some of Sax Myle's
            stuff... not that Steve would know who THEY are. (MY ex-guitar teacher's
    band). Lots of texture... chromatic chord progressions... with VOCALS over
    them...very cool.
    13. Aching Hunger: umm...Prince 1999.. :) (Yes, I was around then...)
    14. Brother: this one sounds like there's a strat in there too... there are
    certain sounds a Jem DOESN'T make.. :) This one is rather Ian Moore-ish..
    nice.
    15. Damn You: this one sounds like Chris Duarte/Ian Moore, too... methinks
    little Stevie has been listening to a lot of blues lately...
    16. When I was a Little Boy: Ok, this is funny... but it could have been a
    nice hidden track... although it does go in a Zappa direction. :)
    17. Genocide: OOOOOH!!! This was remixed at MY SCHOOL!!!! And as much as I
    hate to sya it, it reminds me of NKOTB.... :)
    18. Warm Regards: Julian's back!! This is just a nice little instrumental.

    Just hadda share my ideas... cool CD... if you don't have it -- GO BUY IT!!
    It's the best album Steve's done in a long time... 7 years, to be exact...
    :)

    Suz
    http://www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/3781

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    Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 14:25:41 -0400
    From: Lars Hellsten <larsh@ionsys.com>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Lemur Voice
    Message-ID: <3.0b11.32.19960921074951.0066e758@ionsys.com>

    Does anyone know if I can find samples of Lemur Voice? From what I've heard
    her, I'd probably really like them, but I'd like to know what they sound
    like before I waste my time looking all over the city for them, or paying a
    fortune to order it from one of those online CD stores.

    BTW, I know not everyone on the list has been around as long as I have, but
    don't peole get tired of regurgitating the same old threads over and over?
    I can't count how many times I've heard this thread about James' voice over
    the last year or so, and same with the other threads (MTV, Conan/Letterman,
    etc)...

    --
    Lars Hellsten (larsh@ionsys.com) <*> MatrixSoft's home on the Internet:
    http://www.ionsys.com/~larsh     <*> http://www.ionsys.com/~larsh/ms.html
    Made in Canada.  OLYMPIC HOCKEY GOLD MEDALISTS IN 1998!  GO LEAFS GO!
    

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    Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 14:59:42 -0400 From: Mark Metzger <mmetzger@bostech.com> To: "'(Ytsejam)'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Prog Recommendations Message-ID: <01BBA7CD.86231140@meridian.btrd.bostech.com>

    << what can I say you guys << got me into Shadow Gallery and I absolutely love that band...of course << enough of you raved about Magellan for me to waste some money, but ah, I << forgive you...8^).

    < Who else has this same taste? I know that I certainly do and I am looking < for some bands that are in the same area. All you guys love DT but it seems < that people get subdivided (ha) into groups when it comes to other prog/metal < bands. Any of these fit into the closer to SG than Magellan or Marillon < (yuck)? Fates Warning, Clockwork, King's X, and Crimson Glory? Anyone, < anyone??

    Well maybe it is time for my annual post about early Genesis. That is, pre-1978 Genesis. Specifically, pre- "Earth Wind and Phil" Genesis. Great stuff. Really. There was a lot of decent prog from them. Not prog metal even in a stretch. But, prog. They were somewhat weak in their guitar playing (for those who evaluate guitar playing in a prog metal sense) and heavy on the keys. They did throw a few bizarre songs in every once in a while and the lyrics are frequently way out there, but from a songwriting perspective, they had a really decent thing going. And, many of these can be found in the el cheapo bins or the used record store. Try to get Seconds Out (double live) for a sampling. Disk two is classic.

    Separately, to bring my carcass out of the 70's and back into the 90's, the new Lemur Voice and I Mother Earth are every bit as decent as others have said. A notch below Superior for me, but definitely at the top of the tree.

    Mark Metzger mmetzger@bostech.com

    PS - Isn't it cool that MP has gotten secure enough to NOT have to do a drum solo in concert ?? I mean, as drum solos go, his were quite decent but I think that there are few out there who would rather hear a drum solo iso Metropolis. His work within the context of their music is so much more impressive. And, he has nothing to prove to anyone.

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    Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 21:57:39 +-200 From: Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl> To: "'The Ytsejam'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Funeral songs - Part II Message-ID: <01BBA808.A407CD00@LaForge.startrek.GlobalXS.nl>

    Partha Mukhopadhyay said on 'Jam #1854 :

    > oh yeah, itchy, your death song by the cause list? Gets my vote for a > ytsejam hall of fame post, if there is such a thing..... :)

    Thanks :-) /me bows

    Here are some reasons to play songs from the upcoming DT album on a funeral :

    Stabbing : Raise The Knife - The OJ Song ;-) Mercy killing : Take Away My Pain Duel to the death : You or Me Fire : Burning My Soul Suffocation : Just Let Me Breath

    Morbid Mark _______________________________________________________itchy@dreamt.org__ All of us get lost in the darkness _ _____ ___ _ _ _ _ Dreamers learn to steer by the stars (`)(_```_)/``_)(`)_(`)(`)_(`) All of us do time in the gutter RUSH | | ) ( ( (_ | _ | \_ / Dreamers turn to look at the cars THE PASS (_) (_) \___)(_) (_) (__/ ____________________________________________________bredius@globalxs.nl__ Maintainer of the Official Dream Theater Most Frequent Poster List http://www.globalxs.nl/home/b/bredius/

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    Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 21:58:25 +-200 From: Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl> To: "'The Ytsejam'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: It Bites - Long & off-topic Message-ID: <01BBA808.AEA3DD80@LaForge.startrek.GlobalXS.nl>

    Gary Cleghorn said :

    > In all the time i've been reading the jam i've seen plenty about other > prog style bands but never anything about a great(but now defunct) > band called IT BITES , they put out three great albums that will > appeal to some jammers if you have not heard them before your missing > some great music.

    Yeah ! "It Bites" is one of my favourite bands !

    > Buy their albums now ......

    Are they still available ? I don't think so... There *is* a compilation album out there, but I didn't get it... Only one track I didn't have yet. Still considering buying it, though :-] It's very hard to describe their music, because none of their albums sound anything alike... I do think they were one of the few prog-bands who played prog without trying to sound 70's... True originals... What made this band so special wasn't just their (great) musicianship, but mostly the teamwork with which they played (kinda like DT and Marillion). As individual musicians they're great... as a band they're brilliant !

    > 1. Big Lad in the Windmill

    This is a 'Poppy Prog-Album' or 'Proggy Pop-Album' (either one) It features their first hit "All In Red" and a really cool single called "Calling All The Heroes"... I always looked at this song as their answer to Marillion's "Market Square Heroes"... They were once considered as the Marillion of the 90's (although they split up in '89). Guess who really turned out to be the Marillion of the 90's ? .... Marillion !!!!! Btw, they once played at a festival with Marillion (it's that gig from the "Live From Loreley" video).

    > 2. All Around the World

    Very progressive stuff ! Btw, it's "Once Around The World", not "All". If you get *that* one, make sure it's the 'full' version, with the title-track (14:46) on it (Virgin CDV2456). There's also a short version with 5 tracks, instead of 9 (I have both versions). One of those 5 songs has been cut down from 9:21 to 3:59 (can you say 'sacrilege'?) ! Btw, this is my favourite "It Bites" album... A bit Yes-like, imo. The title track is really really great ! (and kinda weird in places).

    > 3. Eat me in St.Louis

    "Eat Me in St. Louis" features artwork by Roger Dean (Yes/Asia) and photography by Martyn Dean. It's produced by Mack (Queen) and has more 'rough edges' than it's predecessors. Great stuff ! It also has one of the most beautiful songs of all times (imo), "The Ice Melts Into Water". I remember seeing this one MTV, back in the time when they occasionally played (good) music. MTV also played "Calling All The Heroes" a few times...

    Also, a live-album was released in '91, after the band split up. It's called "Thank You And Goodnight". Get this one too, if you get the chance.

    Francis Dunnery left "It Bites" to pursue a solo career... His first solo-album was "Welcome To The Wild Country" and has only been released by Virgin Japan in '91... Virgin got taken over that year (right?), and his album was never released in any other country after that... I got it on import for $ 45 ! It's a really great album, imo :-)

    After that, he joined Robert Plant's band for about a year. He's on his "Fate Of Nations" album. I don't have that one. If anyone on this list has it... is it any good ? I saw them live at a festival here in Holland (Park Pop) :-) I originally went there to see Fish (ex-Marillion). :-)

    Since then, Francis has released two more studio albums, "Fearless" and "Tall Blonde Helicopter" (don't have that one yet) and a mainly acoustic live-album called "One Night In Sauchiehall Street" (don't have that one either, yet).

    The other guys from "It Bites" toured with John Wetton (UK/Asia/Crimson), last year or so (at least that's what I heard).

    Sorry for this long, off-topic post... Just don't get me started on my favourite bands, or I'll never stop posting :-) (Yes/Marillion). Isn't it time we start an early-Genesis thread ?

    Hey ! Just had a thought... I think Francis Dunnery would be a GREAT singer for Genesis ! Mike Rutherford could return to playing the instrument he plays best... bassguitar... Francis could do the vocals AND guitars (he's a great guitarist). All they need now, is a drummer... Is Bruford doing anything these days ? He replaced Phil Collins before, on drums (during one tour, right after Peter Gabriel left).

    Itchy Bites :-) _______________________________________________________itchy@dreamt.org__ All of us get lost in the darkness _ _____ ___ _ _ _ _ Dreamers learn to steer by the stars (`)(_```_)/``_)(`)_(`)(`)_(`) All of us do time in the gutter RUSH | | ) ( ( (_ | _ | \_ / Dreamers turn to look at the cars THE PASS (_) (_) \___)(_) (_) (__/ ____________________________________________________bredius@globalxs.nl__ Maintainer of the Official Dream Theater Most Frequent Poster List http://www.globalxs.nl/home/b/bredius/

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    Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 15:13:51 -0500 From: RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org> To: Heavy Metal Computer Nerds <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: sepultura Message-ID: <2.2.32.19960921201351.0072b3f4@mail.inlink.com>

    ok, i'm gonna snag me up roots finally this week, who's got some fun info n comments for me? :) tanz ~Rip

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    Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 16:28:29 -0400 From: acook@tiac.net (acook) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Joe Stump Message-ID: <199609212028.QAA08955@zork.tiac.net>

    > > I am curious if anyone on the list is in to a guitarist named Joe >Stump? I attended a summer program at Berklee this year and was honered to >have him as a teacher. I have seen ads in magazines about him and reviews >for two of his albums in guitar world but didn't truly know who he was until >I met him. His cd Supersonic Shred Machine is an awesome instrumental cd. >It is kind of in the vein of Yngwie, but I prefer this to listeneing to >Yngwie any day. If you like old Yngwie you would probally like this cd. It >has some of the fastest shred guitar played with taste that I have heard in >a long time. >Corey Bell

    Heard of him?! I was in YOUR CLASS! Small world, huh? You probably don't remember me, and I probably don't remember you, but that was one kick ass class at Berklee. Every song on Supersonic Shred Machine is equal to or better than the best Yngwie songs, with his own little twists. I completely urge everybody to buy this cd just to get blown away. Even if you think fast stuff is boring, this guy will knock your pants off. He makes JP seem slow. I remember Bafu was talking about how the fastest he'd ever heard Yngwie play was 16 notes per second, that would be 16th notes at 240 bpm. Well I saw and (barely) heard Stump play sextuplets at 220 bpm. I'm not saying fast = good, I just think it's fun, and when mixed with good melodies and feelings, it makes a good style of music. That music is shred and Stump does it perfectly.

    Oh and about the bands that nobody original is left in, how about Def Leppard? All their original guitarists and songwriters are gone, and the drummer lost an arm!

    By the way, Operation: Mindcrime is cool.

    Adam Cook acook@tiac.bet visit me at, http://www.tiac.net/users/com (hard hat construction area!)

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    Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 16:41:39 -0400 From: acook@tiac.net (acook) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1856 Message-ID: <199609212041.QAA09186@zork.tiac.net>

    >> His cd Supersonic Shred Machine is an awesome instrumental cd. >> It is kind of in the vein of Yngwie, >Understatement of the decade! Stump is an Yngwie wannabe. He used >to walk around Boston in those fluffy shirts with the lace and shit. >You know... the way Yngwie dressed on stage in the 80's? He teaches >at Berklee... and he's a wanker. >

    Trust me, Yngwie would want to have Stump's chops. Not the other way around. What's really funny is Stump was a total jazz cat when attending Berklee. All four years he majored in it. I guess when he realized how fast he was at jazz, and at the time fast metal players were real hot, he decided to play metal. :)

    >He is fast.... very fast.... but not alive... you know? Heh... my >buddy (who goes to Berkle) was making fun of him at a Berklee >concert. It's hilarious. The dude started acting all tough... >ahh... how can you be intimidated by someone wearing a woman's >blouse? :) >

    I know the guy. Don't worry, he doesn't take himself seriously. He says so in his CD notes, it's just his rep and he likes to live up to it, you know? He an incredibly nice guy though, and very down to earth. He was acting all tough when we talked, I said his CD was awesome, he said thanks and was happy to sign it. Oh and don't worry, he got rid of the woman's blouses. Last time I saw him he was wearing some shirt from his record label (Leviathan) that said, "Thou Shall Not Grunge" and it had a circle with an X and it said grunge it the middle. All in good humor.

    Adam Cook acook@tiac.bet visit me at, http://www.tiac.net/users/com (hard hat construction area!)

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